There's not one coach left from the 2020 team

not a chance we keep Peetz.

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A gripe I had with the Orgeron hire was the large scale continuance of the Miles era

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i had no problem with this when we were beating the shot out of everyone in 2019

Is that so terrible? So what we learned is Coach o could not hire many good coaches. I think we now have a coach that can vet coaches properly and get the right guys at LSU.

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A gripe I had with the Orgeron hire was the large scale continuance of the Miles era with many retentions from Miles staff. I'm happy to see a culture/leadership shakeup from a program that has gone stale

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The program was FAR from broken when Miles was fired. The hurdle that LSU could not get over was Miles's flat out refusal to adjust his offensive approach that would allow a really good program to take the next step to becoming a championship program. That, in fact, played out when Miles' DC coupled with the change in offense Miles never would have implemented led to one of the most dominant seasons in CFB history.

It wasn't so much the Miles era retentions that caused the ship to sink...It was when those guys started to leave and the new shrimpboat Capitan had full control of the ship...that he promptly steered into the bank.

O NEVER understanding of the game to meddle in the offense. He just made two bad hires after Brady left. The first (Linehan) was an effort to avoid a Brady scenario (young coach leaves after one season). The second was an effort to re-create the Brady scenario. Both failed.

But the biggest problem that once he was freed of the Miles-era shackles on the defense (Aranda) he could run HIS "tremendous" defense...which tanked the program.

I'm not saying Kelly should or should not have kept guys from the 2021 staff. But the worst coach on staff (Orgeron) is gone...which is the biggest plus.

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The program was FAR from broken when Miles was fired. The hurdle that LSU could not get over was Miles's flat out refusal to adjust his offensive approach that would allow a really good program to take the next step to becoming a championship program.

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This. The only reason O succeeded and lasted as long as he did was because he retained (or was required to retain) the Miles-era coaches. Aranda was always going to provide an elite defense.

That's a good start

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I'm not saying Kelly should or should not have kept guys from the 2021 staff. But the worst coach on staff (Orgeron) is gone...which is the biggest plus.

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Everything in your post is spot on.



I will be honest - I was REALLY saying WTF when i first heard about CR bouncing, and I still think we'll likely downgrade at that spot, but I am okay with letting BK do his thing.


Maintaining some continuity likely would've helped us in the short term--imo it potentially could've helped us a **LOT** in the short term, given how talented the roster is/was--but I am totally fine with handing BK the keys and letting him build for the long-term. I would rather see the program prioritize long-term health than short-term gains.


Bottom line: Losing a guy like CR is almost certainly gonna hurt a little bit in the short-term... but I'd rather allow Kelly to build how he sees fit than force something on him that he doesn't really want in exchange for short-term benefit. The man has not failed yet, so although I don't necessarily buy that we're better off without Raymond, I'm on board with letting him do his thing.

Keep Baker and Carter.
I don’t care about the rest. Wouldn’t be surprised if Jones stayed at least for 1 year.
Carter was a legit coach in the NFL.
The Current LBs love Baker.

Bro, the reason they haven’t been announced as staying or going is because they are an essential part of the game we have on Jan 4 . Once they get through with that , then a decision is made or announced.

It’s a risky move when it comes to recruiting, but it may be the only way to have those important practices and a good gameplan and game