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re: The Texas mentality
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:12 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:12 am to TheCaterpillar
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These 3 comments are just flat out wrong.
It is LIGHTYEARS easier to recruit at Texas. That is a damn fact. Don't have to even leave the state for a majority of their players and often have top 10 classes wrapped up before summer is over. Mack hates recruiting and still dominated it for years. Better recruiting base, less big teams in close proximity, more money than anyone else, a much better school than Bama, and a MUCH MUCH better city in Austin says it is easier to recruit. Saban busts his fricking balls all over the South to recruit at Bama.
They EASILY have more money than most power schools. Enormous alumni base FILLED with oil money. They truly have unlimited money.
Harder to win? Just because Bama racked up wins before schollie limits with Bear Bryant doesn't mean Texas is harder to win at. They have top notch facilities and recruiting base and are in the Big 12. Saban would come in and win 10 games a year every year. If Mack fricking Brown could win 10 games a year for 9 years straight, think what Saban would do.
You are very, very wrong my friend.
Over 100 years of history says otherwise.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:12 am to sbrian3915
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You are assuming that all Saan has to do is show up and poof Texas is Alabama. It doesn't work that way.
No one is saying that.
We are assuming he will show up because of an absurd contract to coach at a school that doesn't have unrealistic fans in a MUCH better city at a school he won't have to recruit half as hard at. He schedule there would allow him to win 10 games a year easily with just Texas recruits and make the fanbase happy again.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:13 am to sbrian3915
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Era after era, Alabama has produced dynasties. They have won multiple titles in the 20s, 30s, 60s, 70s, and today. No matter the era, the Tide produce champions.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:13 am to sbrian3915
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Over 100 years of history says otherwise.
Do you understand why that sounds so hilariously dumb?
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:14 am to aggressor
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The ONLY path for Texas to the Playoff next year is to go undefeated. So you are making the assumption that Saban is going to go undefeated in Year 1?
I'm not making any assumptions, I'm stating what could happen. The fact is, you are incapable of viewing this situation objectively because you are an aggie.
Consider this: this year Texas has been embarrassed in their four losses, Mack Brown has been questioned about his job security every week, the DC was fired in season, but they still have a top ten recruiting class (according the ESPN).
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What if A&M manages to maintain or even improve while Saban struggles out of the gate?
One day you may not be completely dominated by LSU, but now you are the one making ridiculous assumptions.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:14 am to TheCaterpillar
So Mack Brown is getting "let go" and Texas is going through this whole charade just for the final outcome to be that Saban gets a bump in pay at Bama?
I just don't buy that.
I just don't buy that.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:16 am to TK421
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Consider this: this year Texas has been embarrassed in their four losses, Mack Brown has been questioned about his job security every week, the DC was fired in season, but they still have a top ten recruiting class (according the ESPN).
Exactly.
The amount of effort to get a top 5 recruiting class there every year will be a fraction of that required to do the same at basically any other school besides USC.
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Add that to top notch facilities, unlimited money, and a Big 12 schedule...PRESTO 10 wins a year easily for Nick Saban.
Plus Austin > Tuscaloosa
Austin is considered to be one of the best cities in the US. Tuscaloosa is the butthole of the worst state.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 9:18 am
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:18 am to TheCaterpillar
they have a top 10 class due to numbers. it won't even end up being top 20
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:18 am to TheCaterpillar
The original post also applies to why Mizzou, the Aggies, CU and Neb all left the b12.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 9:19 am
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:18 am to sbrian3915
Baylor has the most political clout?
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:20 am to sbrian3915
Here's how I see Texas:
They ARE about as good as it gets, conference affiliation aside. Great resources, great academics,great recruiting base, great branding, great tradition, great alumni base, great wealth. What's going on at UT (besides football) that isn't better than pretty much anywhere else. Why wouldn't they be proud?
Texas people are not "convinced" they have Saban. The ones I know want Mack Brown to stay and retire with some dignity or bow out voluntarily. They are one of the few fan bases in America that we should be applauding for behaving HONORABLY toward their legendary Coach (ok I'm stretching here) as he winds his career down. They are head and shoulders less whiny than LSU fans and most SEC fans would be in a similar circumstances.
I too think Saban would win bigger at Bama, but I don't have a need to create this false Narrative about Texas to provide my justification. Texas is handling this in a dignified manner and SEC fans for the most part, don't recognize anything other than a meltdown as being normal. We are the Real House Husbands of College Football, always in constant meltdown mode, totally moist about everything, always in each other's business, hoping the other guy fails spectacularly.
Chill out people. Just because your neighbor wants a new car, doesn't give you the right to psychoanalyze him and deconstruct his motivation in life. Maybe he just wants a new frickin' car.

They ARE about as good as it gets, conference affiliation aside. Great resources, great academics,great recruiting base, great branding, great tradition, great alumni base, great wealth. What's going on at UT (besides football) that isn't better than pretty much anywhere else. Why wouldn't they be proud?
Texas people are not "convinced" they have Saban. The ones I know want Mack Brown to stay and retire with some dignity or bow out voluntarily. They are one of the few fan bases in America that we should be applauding for behaving HONORABLY toward their legendary Coach (ok I'm stretching here) as he winds his career down. They are head and shoulders less whiny than LSU fans and most SEC fans would be in a similar circumstances.
I too think Saban would win bigger at Bama, but I don't have a need to create this false Narrative about Texas to provide my justification. Texas is handling this in a dignified manner and SEC fans for the most part, don't recognize anything other than a meltdown as being normal. We are the Real House Husbands of College Football, always in constant meltdown mode, totally moist about everything, always in each other's business, hoping the other guy fails spectacularly.
Chill out people. Just because your neighbor wants a new car, doesn't give you the right to psychoanalyze him and deconstruct his motivation in life. Maybe he just wants a new frickin' car.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:20 am to sbrian3915
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Over 100 years of history says otherwise.
And...the OP has officially crashed and burned
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:21 am to sbrian3915
Texas better be careful what they wish for. Look at what USC is going through, I'm not convinced Sark is any better than what they had. Look at Tennessee, will they ever get back to SEC relevance. Look at Notre Dame over the years, Kelly has had one solid year. Look at Bama and LSU pre Saban. Mack Brown and 8/9 wins is not all that bad when you consider who Texas will get if it's not Saban. Look at Ark and what there going through and bringing in coaches with different styles. Look at Fla between Spurrier and Meyer. Look at Michigan and Rich Rod fiasco. Look at Colorado, they are a shell of the program they once were. The list goes on.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:21 am to TheCaterpillar
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Tuscaloosa is the butthole of the worst state.
You were doing fine until you said that. You are looking at this through anti-Alabama goggles, not objectively.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:22 am to sbrian3915
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You are looking at this through Alabama goggles, not objectively.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:22 am to TheCaterpillar
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Austin is considered to be one of the best cities in the US.
Man Austin has a great PR firm for all you people to believe that.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:23 am to sbrian3915
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You are assuming that all Saan has to do is show up and poof Texas is Alabama. It doesn't work that way
It is puzzling that will all the money, all the recruits, the location, etc that UT has only 1 NC in the last 40 years. 40 years!!
LSU is even a better program.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:23 am to attheua
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LSU is even a better program.
Nice, get that LSU jab in there
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:24 am to sbrian3915
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Tuscaloosa is the butthole of the worst state.
You were doing fine until you said that. You are looking at this through anti-Alabama goggles, not objectively.
Maybe the armpit, and BHam is the butthole.
Both cities are absolutely awful. Bama has a pretty campus with fun frat parties and college bars. Other than that its a shithole ghetto. Even my Bama friends admit that.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:24 am to relapse98
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Man Austin has a great PR firm for all you people to believe that.
It's still 1000x better than T-Town
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