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re: Texas did what needed to be done, Y not LSU?

Posted on 12/2/10 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 1:32 pm to
Texas and LSU finished the year with pretty similar offense numbers I believe.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 1:37 pm to
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our problem is not the OC


Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 1:40 pm to
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Texas fired one of arguably the best OC's in college football,


Are you kidding? Greg Davis is not one of the best OC's in cfb. He is terrible.

Pre-VY, every Texas fan I know wanted Davis gone. Davis had success with VY and then Colt McCoy.

Basically, when he has an elite player, Davis' offense works. That isn't saying much for Davis.

Davis sucks.

Now....I think Crowton also sucks, but I just wanted to point out that the idea that Davis is good is pretty laughable.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:00 pm to
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Texas didn't go 10-2


So going 10-2 is a good reason to have 3 consecutive seasons of bad offense? Genius logic. Where would LSU be with a average offense this year?
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:02 pm to
I fully expect Mack to flex his "frick you I'm untouchabl"e muscles and promote Applewhite.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:05 pm to
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which finished ranked 93rd in the nation.


Maybe he's looking at the glass half full? 93rd this year is better than 112th last year right?
Posted by TXTiger75
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:10 pm to
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No one with fricking common sense considers GD to be one of the best offensive minds. If you disagree please provide a link that shows someone other than a message board poster who thinks the way you think


No link, but listen to the guys that cover UT for orangebloods and ESPN Austin. All say he was great, especially as a qb coach, but most agree the move is necessary.

And as far as other media outlets reporting it isn't going to happen, I'll take Chip Brown's word for it. He has a pretty good track record when it comes to breaking stories involving the longhorns.
Posted by apostel tiger
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:16 pm to
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Posted by Mindenfan
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:23 pm to
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We did not go 10-2 this season thanks to Crowton's offense
The TEAM went 10-2.
Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:32 pm to
Whoever coached up VY and Colt should get the credit... I dont think they came in as Heisman runner-ups..

And I know a many of UT fans want GD gone..def as many as we want GC gone

Posted by GrantTheFan
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:32 pm to
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our problem is not the OC


this
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 2:57 pm to
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Whoever coached up VY


For the first year and a half, Mack and Davis were trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with VY.

Pretty sure Mack made the decision to go to a spread option offense, and it did wonders for Vince.

quote:

Colt


They just kept the ball rolling. Colt was naturally intelligent and gifted, so he picked it up with ease. Not much coaching necessary.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:08 pm to
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Texas fired one of arguably the best OC's in college football


Posted by LUS Tiger in FL
TrampaBay
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:31 pm to
I am pretty sure Mack made the call to change the O this year and it went South..

Both Vice and Colt benefited from red-shirting... While VY was athletically gifted, his passing numbers progressed as he got older.. I would think coaching was apart of both of their success..

I am not saying GD is awesome, but he might deserve some credit or whoever coached them
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:32 pm to
Greg Davis would be an upgrade from Crowton. He has demonstrated an ability to develop quarterbacks and that is what we need here. He also will ride his workhorse is he has one. Part of our problem has been getting away from what is working under Crowton.

I think Les and Greg would be a good match. If it fails, get rid of both in a year or two.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:34 pm to
I have a hard time believing those who arbitrarily assign player success to a coach. It is hard to know what factors really are determinate.
This post was edited on 12/2/10 at 3:45 pm
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:36 pm to
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Those who arbitrarily assign player success to a coach are only doing so to further their own agenda. Do not listen to this ignorance.


But a positional coach does play a huge role in development.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:37 pm to
I have no agenda. I just have always thought Davis was a crappy OC. Most Texas fans I know agree with that.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:42 pm to
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But a positional coach does play a huge role in development.


Agreed. And VY and Colt ar enow playing in the NFL. Does Greg get no credit for that?

I don't know really how good he is as a developer of QB's or an OC. I just think it is very easy to take shots at people without treally knowing the truth (admittedly, very few people KNOW the truth).
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 3:43 pm to
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I have no agenda. I just have always thought Davis was a crappy OC.


Yeah, sorry about that. Bad day at work. You are entitled to your opinion.

ETA: I edited the "agenda" comment.
This post was edited on 12/2/10 at 3:45 pm
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