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re: So what happens if UM doesn't offer les (re: new contract)
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:15 am to BilJ
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:15 am to BilJ
Yep u right. One thing Balas was right about IMO from the beginning is that Miles and Hoke want that job. Miles wanted it last time but Martin turned down the search committee twice.
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
with UM fans knowing Miles is in play no way they accept Hoke
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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alleva has no reason to negotiate with miles at this point. only 1 of 2 things can occur
1. UM offers miles, and he goes to UM
2. UM doesn't offer miles, and he stays at LSU
only one variable matters: UM's offer
why isn't "UM offers and Miles stays" an option?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:16 am to BilJ
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I don't believe we're in some kind of bidding war or anything.
i don't believe this at all
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but us out of skip's stupid contract from 2007
yeah if UM doesn't offer miles, he's in the exact opposite position than where he was in 2007 the day of the SECCG
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:16 am to BilJ
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with UM fans knowing Miles is in play no way they accept Hoke
their balls are certainly nailed against the wall
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:17 am to ForeLSU
he has a want to be the Michigan coach
This post was edited on 1/11/11 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Agreed. They want Miles, this is the second time they've wanted Miles, they will accept no one other than Miles.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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does miles have ANY bargaining position for a new deal at that point?
if UM doesn't intend to offer him, and this interview is a charade for the fans (as UM hires hoke), and les is left out there, how can miles honestly demand anything from LSU at that point?
why would alleva even negotiate Miles' contract at this point. he's going to UM if offered, so there is no reason to overextend ourselves (again). then, if UM does NOT offer, LSU/alleva holds all the cards.
if UM doesn't offer miles, there are very few other programs who (1) would hire miles and (2) would pay him close to $3-4M per
This was explained to you yesterday.
LSU has incentive to rework the deal because LSU wants to get rid of that buyout. That won't be done without giving Miles something. So, Miles will likely get a significantly higher salary with a new long term deal and LSU will get rid of the automatic rollover so that it is not paralyzed should they decide to go in a different direction 3 years from now.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:20 am to LS1tiger
does the fact that brandon met with miles mean that carr is ok with miles? or is it a pr move
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:22 am to moneyg
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That won't be done without giving Miles something.
you're missing my point. my point is that this statement isn't true
IF somehow UM doesn't offer les the UM job (which doesn't appear to be the case right now), miles has no leverage to demand anything
i'm sure LSU won't cut his salary or anything, b/c that would be bush league by all accounts and even i wouldn't expect that
but other than salary, i don't see miles getting many concessions b/c he has no bargaining power other than retirement
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
How is LSU truly gonna know if Miles is offered? Miles will prob tell them he was offered no matter what and Michigan can't go against that because of their fanbase
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:25 am to LS1tiger
I don't think Michigan wants any part of paying a top 5 salary to a coach that will have little to no chance to recruit the type of talent necessary to win a national championship.
The SEC has won 5 straight with 4 different teams. The Big Ten only needs to win its conference, and Michigan only needs to be competitive. Their returns are essentially locked in, they don't have to invest that much to compete.
Miles' agent plays ESPN for the second time. Question is, "Does he play LSU for the second time?"
The SEC has won 5 straight with 4 different teams. The Big Ten only needs to win its conference, and Michigan only needs to be competitive. Their returns are essentially locked in, they don't have to invest that much to compete.
Miles' agent plays ESPN for the second time. Question is, "Does he play LSU for the second time?"
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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IF somehow UM doesn't offer les the UM job (which doesn't appear to be the case right now), miles has no leverage to demand anything
are you assuming that the framework of a new deal hasn't already been put on the table?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:25 am to josh336
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How is LSU truly gonna know if Miles is offered?
he takes the job at UM?
i don't think there is this back and forth negotiating that miles is pushing b/w LSU and UM
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:25 am to dke
supposedly Miles has repaired some broken fences that prevented him from being hired last time, but it's definitely not a done deal.
I would say the answer to your question is no. Brandon and Miles aren't exactly friends either, but not enemies.
I would say the answer to your question is no. Brandon and Miles aren't exactly friends either, but not enemies.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:26 am to wahoocs
Miles' camp putting it out there that they will accept sort of implies compensation isn't the issue at this point
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:27 am to josh336
why would you not request a copy of a letter offering him the position as proof an offer actually was made? Or ask the AD of Michigan directly?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:28 am to BilJ
I agree. This is more of an opportunity for him to coach where he's always wanted to.
I don't think it's a money issue for him and I don't think he is playing LSU and UM against each other. He will either take their offer or decline it and that will be the end of it.
I don't think it's a money issue for him and I don't think he is playing LSU and UM against each other. He will either take their offer or decline it and that will be the end of it.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:31 am to tacotiger
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why would you not request a copy of a letter offering him the position as proof an offer actually was made? Or ask the AD of Michigan directly?
I would say it's typical that it never gets that far, a formal offer isn't presented until the deal is done.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 8:32 am to BilJ
Compensation isn't the issue for who at this point?
It would be an issue for Michigan, would it not?
What is the most they have ever compensated a coach?
Do they want to double a coach's compensation for results that obviously have a limited ceiling?
On Miles end, there's not much more we can offer financially, but there's many different forms of compensation.
It would be an issue for Michigan, would it not?
What is the most they have ever compensated a coach?
Do they want to double a coach's compensation for results that obviously have a limited ceiling?
On Miles end, there's not much more we can offer financially, but there's many different forms of compensation.
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