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Saban took advice from Tom Herman
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:22 pm
Please pardon me. I put this on the rant also, but thought it was too awesome to leave off of this board.
While discussing this issue with another ranter, I stumbled across this article. So much discussion has been made of the "style" of offense (or the type of QB for that matter). At the end of the day, I just want to win Nattys. I think Bama has shown the way. Kiffin's statements below, bring home the old adage that "wise men do what wise men do".
The article below, talks about how Kiffin consulted with Tom Herman (UH) and TCU in building Alabama's new look.
'Kiffin knows now that all schemes must evolve or suffer the consequences. "If we had tried to just do our offense from last year with Jake and the people that we have," he said, "I don't think we'd be as successful right now." Saban and Kiffin knew that after losing Sims and Cooper the Crimson Tide would essentially have to rebuild the offense from scratch. So, with encouragement from Saban, Kiffin visited Doug Meacham and Sonny Cumbie at TCU. Those two had taken the Horned Frogs from a pro-style outfit to an up-tempo spread team. Kiffin also visited Houston coach Tom Herman, who had befuddled Alabama's defense as Ohio State's offensive coordinator in last season's Sugar Bowl. Herman showed Kiffin how different motion concepts—particularly the "jet" motion that is a staple in the Buckeyes' and Cougars' offenses—can sometimes trick less-disciplined defenders into reading the wrong key and blowing their assignments. Kiffin visited Herman in Houston before spring practice. After the spring, Cougars staffers came to Tuscaloosa so that the coaches could compare notes again. This fall, the Tide made the College Football Playoff thanks to their adoption of some of the same concepts that knocked them from the playoff last season. Full Article
While discussing this issue with another ranter, I stumbled across this article. So much discussion has been made of the "style" of offense (or the type of QB for that matter). At the end of the day, I just want to win Nattys. I think Bama has shown the way. Kiffin's statements below, bring home the old adage that "wise men do what wise men do".
The article below, talks about how Kiffin consulted with Tom Herman (UH) and TCU in building Alabama's new look.
'Kiffin knows now that all schemes must evolve or suffer the consequences. "If we had tried to just do our offense from last year with Jake and the people that we have," he said, "I don't think we'd be as successful right now." Saban and Kiffin knew that after losing Sims and Cooper the Crimson Tide would essentially have to rebuild the offense from scratch. So, with encouragement from Saban, Kiffin visited Doug Meacham and Sonny Cumbie at TCU. Those two had taken the Horned Frogs from a pro-style outfit to an up-tempo spread team. Kiffin also visited Houston coach Tom Herman, who had befuddled Alabama's defense as Ohio State's offensive coordinator in last season's Sugar Bowl. Herman showed Kiffin how different motion concepts—particularly the "jet" motion that is a staple in the Buckeyes' and Cougars' offenses—can sometimes trick less-disciplined defenders into reading the wrong key and blowing their assignments. Kiffin visited Herman in Houston before spring practice. After the spring, Cougars staffers came to Tuscaloosa so that the coaches could compare notes again. This fall, the Tide made the College Football Playoff thanks to their adoption of some of the same concepts that knocked them from the playoff last season. Full Article
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:08 pm to prepsportsallday
NS is constantly trying to stay current and yearly consults with others. Then there are others that come to Ttown to learn from NS. Once you stop learning then you are dead. Unlike Lesticles who stopped learning it cost him his job. Of course I would like his buyout if someone would fire me for being stale.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:19 pm to mrbroker
Agreed. Too many guys only know what "they know"
Posted on 10/13/16 at 8:01 pm to prepsportsallday
All the more reason he's my man
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:46 pm to prepsportsallday
Good friend is close friends with Saban. Saban told him that he's brilliant and that the only guy he would trade Kiffin for is Herman. Spoke very highly of him
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:49 pm to mrbroker
Herman would own Saban at LSU and bama is terrified about that prospect. Saban's a dinosaur in comparison
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 10/13/16 at 10:04 pm to John Cena
Ken Niumatalolo > Herman > Saban ?
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:28 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Ken Niumatalolo > Herman > Saban ?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:56 am to John Cena
are you going to be a fricking moron in EVERY thread?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:06 am to Hook Em Horns
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are you going to be a fricking moron in EVERY thread?
he isPosted on 10/14/16 at 8:11 am to Brendoni
All coaches talk / steal from each other.
Adapt or die
Adapt or die
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:49 am to CapstoneGrad06
Bama fans conveniently forget that Saban lost to ULM 
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:25 am to John Cena
no one forgets that game dudewhole. But you have to admit that we fans could dwell on that game or we could dwell on the 4 natties out of the last 7 years and competing for one this year. But if our ULM loss is the game that makes you pumped as a Bama hatter then have at it.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:34 am to mrbroker
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no one forgets that game dudewhole. But you have to admit that we fans could dwell on that game or we could dwell on the 4 natties out of the last 7 years and competing for one this year. But if our ULM loss is the game that makes you pumped as a Bama hatter then have at it.
My point is that it is somewhat comparable to the Navy loss, just like when Saban lost to UAB at LSU in his first year. It's silly to judge Herman off one game.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:05 am to John Cena
no comparison in my opinion. NS was taking over a team coming off probation and series sanctions. Tom Herman lost to a team in his second year as a HC. And I dont think UH is coming off sanctions. UH has lost two games in two years that have kept them out of any consideration for the final 4. With that being said I would welcome Herman as the next coach at Bama when NS steps down. But that probably wont happen since we all know Lane is the head coach in waiting. 
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:21 am to mrbroker
Lane is coach in waiting?
Sending thoughts and prayers.
Sending thoughts and prayers.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:31 am to John Cena
u did not see me hit the sarcasm button. He is the LSU coach in waiting right
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:54 am to John Cena
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It's silly to judge Herman off one game.
Yet you're perfectly willing to judge that Saban is a "dinosaur" because he lost to Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl when Herman was the opposing OC?
I would think his willingness to meet with offensive coordinators like Herman, even after a loss, suggests he changes when necessary.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:08 am to mrbroker
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we all know Lane is the head coach in waiting
No we don't and no he isn't.
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