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re: Realistic list of OC candidates

Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29622 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:09 pm to
I'll stick to my list. Most likely realistic.
David Brewerton, Dale Weiner, JT Curtis, Marcus Randall, any of these will be realistic.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38406 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Which of these names are elite?




Not many. Briles, Gilbert, Riley would be the start. Kiffin is on the edge of that list. I think he works well under Saban. I'm not sure what we will look like post-Saban as an HC or OC.

Appelwhite is not ready. I don't want him near our OC job yet.


That's probably it. The problem with Elite Coordinator, and this stupid plan as our goal, is that they have a short shelf life. 2-3 years of being a top level coordinator will get you a job at least at a mid-major.

Again, of course any team wants successful coordinators, and you expect them to move on once they are successful, that's why your HEAD COACH should be someone 1) Elite himself on one side of the ball 2) Be able to install a philosophy that he both coaches from and hires from. That's where consistency comes from, the Head Coach.

When your entire plan is that you'll hire the best, instead of installing a philosophy and program that can be the foundation upon which everything else happens, you will most likely fail. When we have multiple coordinators coming in with different approaches every 2-3 years... PRO-STYLE OFFENSE...then SPREAD then PRO AGAIN, then SPREAD AGAIN (oh look, it's already happening), your margin for error will be huge. It will mean that EVERY hire has to be absolutely perfect, and they have to be able to install a system (their system, different from the last guys system) in under 6 months time, and have it be successful immediately.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 4:14 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

The list should only be elite coordinators.


"should" being the operative word
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91325 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:47 pm to
I truly believe this Canada thing is TD driven. I dont think they are really considering him.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29622 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
5358 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

Is there anyone on that list from Louisiana that we can get fat and lazy with

We get it. You do not like our new head coach. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
2411 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:11 pm to
Helfrich is elite.

Best thing about him is he will be staying at coordinator and not attempting another Head Coach move.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20094 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:18 pm to
Tony Peterson (ECU) - formerly of La Tech.
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5298 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

I truly believe this Canada thing is TD driven. I dont think they are really considering him.


Agree
Posted by Reeltrouble
New Iberia
Member since Sep 2016
31 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:53 pm to
Joe Moorhead Penn State
Mike Sanford Notre Dame
Lincoln Riley Oklahouma
Posted by C3W
East Narnia
Member since May 2009
1513 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:04 pm to
I want Canada.
Posted by Sbk1992
Member since Oct 2016
23 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:09 pm to
We have no legitimate information so I'm living in my own fantasy world where there are competent decision makers in place:
1. Kendal Briles
2. Canada
3. Riley
4. Helfrich
5. Sark








6. Kiffin
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Guidge
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
556 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 12:20 am to
quote:

6. Kiffin


1) Lane has been practicing against Saban's defense for 3 years.
2) Bama has a west coast offense because Jalen Hurts doesn't through the ball well (yet), so they go east and west a lot as opposed to north and south.
3) Kiffin developed a true freshman quarterback and tailored an offense around him that has only scored less than 30 points once this entire season.
4) Kiffin is one of the most versatile offensive guys available. He designed a championship offense around Jake Coker because he works with what he has.

I don't know if a Briles offense would work for LSU. We need a pro-style spread that attacks short distance with playmakers and has the "busted coverage" deep routes.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58475 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 12:50 am to
Tee Martin from USC would be a good hire if O could convince him to leave. This was his first season as OC and he did great job with a freshman QB
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83076 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:03 am to
I'm preparing my soul to be crushed by a truly uninspiring but inexpensive hire.
Posted by Guidge
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
556 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:45 am to
quote:

I'm preparing my soul to be crushed by a truly uninspiring but inexpensive hire.


I've already prepared myself by betting my friend $10 that Ensminger will be the OC next year. If I lose, great, we get an actual OC. If I win, there's $10 in it for me, so I have something to comfort me.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:37 am to
This is how a proper search is handled. You shouldn't have 8 million frick heads releasing info. We don't need some live update of every person we want. That gives them every bit of leverage against us
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25739 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:42 am to
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Realistic list of OC candidates
I truly believe this Canada thing is TD driven. I dont think they are really considering him.

You truly believe TD nominates the Bryoles Award candidates? You truly believe that LSU is not interested in the best OC in 2016?

K...
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:43 am
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5298 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:20 am to
quote:

You truly believe TD nominates the Bryoles Award candidates? You truly believe that LSU is not interested in the best OC in 2016?


The same LSU that just 2 short weeks ago wasn't interested in Fuente, Fleck, Rhule, Gundy, Fedora or any number of head coaches who would likely be better than our DL coach who'd failed spectacularly in the SEC??

Yeah looks like we were all in on Kiffin and now we are scrambling for a back up plan.
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