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re: Question for Southern Cal fans if there are any here.

Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:21 am to
Posted by Peter Venkman
Jackson, TN
Member since Aug 2016
2614 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:21 am to
Never underestimate Pat Haden's ability to screw up a coaching hire.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15406 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:33 pm to
As an SC fan I'm bittersweet on darnold because the better he plays the longer Helton stays
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:26 am to
Go look at the teams he played when he took over.

If he doesn't pull one out vs Stanford no one would have ever even discussed him.

Lost to UCLA and Norte Dame and didn't have to play ASU who was 10-3 that's season. Besides that he had 5 wins vs teams with middle of the road to shitty records.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:39 am to
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Go look at the teams he played when he took over.

If he doesn't pull one out vs Stanford no one would have ever even discussed him.

Lost to UCLA and Norte Dame and didn't have to play ASU who was 10-3 that's season. Besides that he had 5 wins vs teams with middle of the road to shitty records.


Well, just like the argument used against him at Ole Miss, he did a hell of a lot better than the coach who preceded him and the coach who followed him at USC. And it is Notre Dame.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 10:54 am to
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Well, just like the argument used against him at Ole Miss, he did a hell of a lot better than the coach who preceded him and the coach who followed him at USC. And it is Notre Dame.


Well for starters he didn't do better than his predecessor at Ole Miss. O's best season at Ole Miss was as good as Cutliffe's worst season. He actually lost more games in the first year he took over.

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he did a hell of a lot better than the coach who preceded him and the coach who followed him at USC


Did he?

He beat so me teams with losing records and upset Stanford, and otherwise lost to the 2 of the 3 good teams he had to face.

Look at LSU this year, so far O has beaten 2 teams with losing records and 5-3 C-USA team. We look great, but at the same time, he dodged two of the best teams on our schedule (Wisconsin and Auburn)

Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:29 am to
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no HC, O has to be retained somehow. Even if that means making him the highest paid DL coach in football, do it.


now, i dont mind doing this at all, hell id bump him to 900k as head Recruiter and DL coach, id give him a 10 year contract too.. but not as a Head Coach... Problem is he isnt going to want to stay after being passed up for the Job..
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1428 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 11:51 am to
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Well, just like the argument used against him at Ole Miss, he did a hell of a lot better than the coach who preceded him and the coach who followed him at USC. And it is Notre Dame.


Um, what? He did so, so much worse than the coach that preceded him and the coach that followed him at Ole Miss, there's no comparison.

And he upset David Shaw which is the same thing as upsetting Les Miles: not much of an accomplishment no matter where they were ranked.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6764 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:41 pm to
Guy at work is a USC fan. He wanted to retain Coach O.

He also thought that Les Miles was a good coach and that we should've kept him so I wouldn't take his advice.
Posted by magicman0001
Orange, Texas
Member since Dec 2008
1157 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 5:06 pm to
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This is what I got from someone who has USC fans as friends and what the media was saying at the time. LINK


Wow.. Great stuff
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5964 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 5:21 pm to
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Question for Southern Cal fans if there are any here.
I have a buddy of mine (lifelong USC fan from that area) that loved him as a coach, but he doesn't regret seeing O go. He felt that O would have eventually grown tired of the southern California culture and never would have fit in.



This may be true, but he is still their winningest coach since Pete Carrol so I would bet the fanbase would disagree with your buddy.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5964 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 5:27 pm to
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Go look at the teams he played when he took over.

If he doesn't pull one out vs Stanford no one would have ever even discussed him.

Lost to UCLA and Norte Dame and didn't have to play ASU who was 10-3 that's season. Besides that he had 5 wins vs teams with middle of the road to shitty records.




Yea but he did and they did focus on him. Some of you want to discredit O so bad that you lose credibility by opening your mouths. Yea yea yea I know if he hadn't but he did. Just like if he beats bama tomorrow, you'll say "he wouldn't even be in the running for HC if he hadn't beaten bama.." There's nothing wrong with saying you don't want him as coach, but don't sound ignorant in saying it.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 6:01 pm to
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I'm pulling for Coach O, but also understand the concerns. We should have a much better answer after this weekend.


I understand this but I don't think one game should make THE difference. if LSU wins, many will continue to express your sentiments. so how many games will it take to answer the question should O be hired? I don't believe there is a clear answer. we have 4 damn tough games and a bowl game left (unless we run the table). if the team continues to perform at a very high level and we win all but one or two of the rest (and play very well in the loss(es)) LSU will have a very difficult decision. our recruiting is actually picking up steam and this team has done a 180.

passing on O could turn out to be a big mistake.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116466 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:26 pm to
you're really that worried about passing on a coach with a terrible record that no one else wants to hire?
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10208 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:51 pm to
Either way, we shouldn't know who the coach is going to be until AFTER the regular season. If a decision is made after this game it'll be premature.

Kind of scares me to think that we have an administration that would actually do such a thing.

He could very well win tomorrow, then lose every other game. Not likely, but none of the remaining games are cupcake games. Florida is going to bring it and so will Arky and Aggy in their stadiums.

I mean, what could they say if he beats Bama,(They take off the interim tag) then he loses out? LSU would be the laughing stock of college football.
This post was edited on 11/4/16 at 7:53 pm
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