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Question about the new OC
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:10 pm
Will he only get one year to measure up to Os standards of what an offense should look like? He did say Canadas offense didn't measure up so he had to go. Even if that has some truth to it that's not a good look for bringing in another OC. I guess this may be part of the reason Steve E looks to be the man.
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:10 pm to Brazos
Gary crowton is coming back
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:11 pm to Brazos
Yaw yaw won’t last past next year
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:16 pm to Brazos
Pretty sure that was Orgeron's only mulligan. He made a bad hire. It's not ideal, but it happens. It's good to admit a mistake and fix it quickly. But he definitely shouldn't have enough leeway to survive another one.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:17 pm to houstontyga
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Yaw yaw won’t last past next year
He will make it to the end of his contract, but not further.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:20 pm to Tiger Tracker
If he makes it through 2021 it will mean he has won enough to stay well beyond that. There’s probably about 4 people on this site who believe he’ll win at that clip.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:21 pm to Brazos
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He did say Canadas offense didn't measure up so he had to go
Did Os team measure up after one year?
Hmmmmmmmm
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:23 pm to Brazos
O is completely full of shite. I bet Canada was pissed about that 'statement'
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:23 pm to whitefoot
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It's not ideal, but it happens
Examples of similar situations?
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:26 pm to MOT
I thought it was a three year contract. Just went back and checked and made myself sad. Then yes i agree he won't make it through his contract.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:26 pm to SportTiger1
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Examples of similar situations?
You need examples of people making bad hires?
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:30 pm to whitefoot
But this was a bad hire not because of production...it was Os inability to lead a program. And even if it were production, how many get fired after 1 year?
I don't remember any similar situations.
I don't remember any similar situations.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:33 pm to SportTiger1
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But this was a bad hire not because of production...it was Os inability to lead a program. And even if it were production, how many get fired after 1 year?
I think it was a combination of things, but production was a big one.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:42 pm to Tiger Tracker
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I thought it was a three year contract.
That’s an understandable mistake. It was one of the original O pumper fictitious lines used late in 2016 to justify the hire. “Guys, it really makes sense. We just gave him a three year contract so if he is as bad as you think he’ll be gone after that as opposed to potentially paying a big salary and buyout for a real coach”.
Of course they repeated it enough, along with a hundred or so other memes since then, that people just started to take it as fact, even though it could easily be confirmed as BS.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:49 pm to SportTiger1
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But this was a bad hire not because of production...it was Os inability to lead a program. And even if it were production, how many get fired after 1 year?
My comment wasn't meant to be specifically about this situation. It was more about hiring in general. But there are a plethora of guys in sports who have "mutually parted ways" with organizations, or been fired relatively quickly. I mean, you don't need to look any further than LSU circa 2009, when Les fired Maleveto when that experiment failed after one year.
As for your speculation of why Canada didn't work, I'd his guess if the offense was more productive, the personality conflicts would have been easier to work through.
And don't discount his lackluster recruiting as part of the issue. I think Canada had issues identifying talent (Artur Sitkowski was his number one target for 2018...look him up) and closing guys (same issue Juluke had).
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:59 pm to MOT
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That’s an understandable mistake. It was one of the original O pumper fictitious lines used late in 2016 to justify the hire. “Guys, it really makes sense. We just gave him a three year contract so if he is as bad as you think he’ll be gone after that as opposed to potentially paying a big salary and buyout for a real coach”.
It's a five year deal, but the guaranteed money makes it essentially a four year deal, and the buyout after year three is only $4.5.
We were definitely misled about the contract when he was hired. I don't think the "pumpers" were intentionally misrepresenting the terms of his deal. The details weren't actually released until mid March. At which point, many who supported the hire, we're outraged at the actual terms and especially the buyout.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:01 am to MOT
I think he gets two more seasons, realistically. Then Alleva will likely be forced to make a move or lose his job. Alleva has already lined up Aranda to replace him. It's just a matter of how long from now it happens.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:15 am to whitefoot
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We were definitely misled about the contract when he was hired. I don't think the "pumpers" were intentionally misrepresenting the terms of his deal.
The contract details were literally reported the day of his introductory press conference.
But it’s not your fault. Some of those clowns are still repeating it today.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:21 am to MOT
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The contract details were literally reported the day of his introductory press conference.
You have a link? I know general parameters were released and we heard it was reported as a five year deal that was essentially three because the buyout was low. I never saw the exact details until March LINK which were shocking
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:47 am to whitefoot
Well I mean March was the first time anyone got their hands on the actual documents, so if that’s what you want to call a true “report” I guess you can go that route. It didn’t officially go to the Board until well after he was announced.
Tweet from hours after PC
Article from just days later
Another article from days later that references a report they published the day of, which I am too tired to look for at this time
Tweet from hours after PC
Article from just days later
Another article from days later that references a report they published the day of, which I am too tired to look for at this time
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