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re: People that want O as coach

Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:29 am to
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6868 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:29 am to
No to all of this.


CEO needs to go to a smaller in state school for a HC gig . Build them up then come back home and dominate at LSU.
Posted by jpcajun
Member since Nov 2010
1430 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:41 am to
Because his team put up one hell of a fight against the #1 team in the nation and have put up big numbers against the rest. Yea, we got shut out by Bama, but they are the best team, plain and simple. Our offense needs an overhaul and I think he got the most out of his offense regardless of being shut out. He spread the ball around and stuck to his gameplan... Just bama's defense was better than our offense.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6868 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:44 am to
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I think he got the most out of his offense regardless of being shut out



Wrong. Its clear though you are a CEO for HC person so i'm not going to discuss anything with you further.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5327 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 1:46 pm to
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have put up big numbers against the rest


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we got shut out by Bama


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I think he got the most out of his offense regardless of being shut out


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stuck to his gameplan.


So, we got 129 yards and didn't score. That was the gameplan and the best he could do? I've seen other teams score against them. And, he put up big numbers with that same offense that managed 129 yards against other teams...
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:54 am to
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Give me a HS coach who can beat Saban in recruiting on regular basis and I will beat Saban.


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by CalTiger53


Does your inner monologue typically go something like this:



This is the only logical explanation i have for your posts.
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10208 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:58 am to
The simple fact that he would take considerably less money than any other potential candidate reeks of desperation to me.
The Coach O supporters remind me very much of the diehard Les supporters. Speaking of, anybody hear from Beefense lately?
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10208 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 3:01 am to
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ive me a HS coach who can beat Saban in recruiting on regular basis and I will beat Saban.
It doesn't matter what recruiters we have on staff, We'll never out recruit bama. Their reach is too big and they win championships, so they get the pick of the litter each year.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:26 am to
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It doesn't matter what recruiters we have on staff, We'll never out recruit bama. Their reach is too big and they win championships, so they get the pick of the litter each year.


At this moment this is true. So we much recruit as best as we can and stay in top 3 - 7 space. And out scheme them by attacking their weaknesses effectively. It can be done:).
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13712 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:19 am to
The thought of Orgeron being the coach of LSU past Nov.26 takes me back to the 1990s.
Posted by minvielle
Youngsville, LA
Member since Nov 2014
5177 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:29 pm to
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There are none. O has bare minimum qualifications to be an HC, but because he's cajun, literally parrots everything the fanbase says (pro style offense, pro style QB, we'll throw more, it's our OL fault and we need better ones, penalties, Bama is cheating, penalties), and can recruit, they've fallen head over hills.

My mind should not be able to register how people can be this damn stupid, but then I remember last year when this same fanbase help give Miles another year to f**k another season up.




Bravo sir.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:01 pm to
Successful coaches let their coordinators do their job. If one is calling plays it's usually an avg team. Either it got bad and they took over or their focus is too much on one side to be a complete team. Fact of the matter is good coordinators don't mean good coach otherwise every good cord. Would succeed. The HC may be an offensive mind and helps coach up the offense. They may be involved in gameplan on whatever side they are good at. Hell Saban still coaches db's it's not like he was coaching everyone. There is a lot to running a team and one of the key factors is recruiting so O may be just fine having expertise n recruiting and dline. He can let the OC and DC do their job and focus on what he knows best. That's what all coaches do. O may turn out to be a great coach but if he wins out he still shouldn't be named HC over a jimbo or Herman. He needs to prove he can be successful at a mid major. Like Frank Wilson is doing. But Clemson gambled with dabo and he was in a similar situation being an interim and experience wise as well. So if Lsu goes that route it should only be if they miss on big targets and O is the 4th or 5th option with the other 3-4 top guys declining the job. Assuming he wins out I don't think their is many more than 3 or 4 guys that is an obvious better option than O. So go for Herman n fisher n maybe fedora. If they decline then I would think O should have a good shot at a chance with the next group or "b" tier options.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10208 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 1:12 am to
A good HC will have oversight and can add something to one side of the ball with x's and o's, if need be. Not just recruiting and motivating. If something isn't going right on offense, what can Ed Orgeron really say? "Hey, tighten up, T-boy!?"

He knows nothing about offense and there's nothing he can tell an elite DC on how to run a defense.
This post was edited on 11/12/16 at 1:14 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 8:44 am to
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coach O isn't even in my top 5, but I don't think it would be the end of LSU football like many are making it out to be


you bet. if O will, and can, hire a top flight OC this could be a great situation. no matter who we hire tho this board will have huge problems with. there are some that are absolutely convinced a spread offense is the ONLY way to go and there are others on the completely opposite side and think the spread is for weak teams. my opinion is that an offense should most certainly have enough spread elements to win certain games but maintain the pro set as a base offense.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4975 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 8:58 am to
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Give me a reason


I don't have to give you shite.
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