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re: Pelini was not fired because of on-field performace

Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by Requiem for a Dream
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:38 pm to
Honestly, I don't really care what the current players are saying. What have they ever won of importance? Nothing. I guarantee that if they bring in a coach that leads them to a conference title in the next year or two, they'll be singing a different tune.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:41 pm to
NU better hire the best fricking recruiter on earth not named saban to improve the talent on that team if the players will bad mouth NU to recruits
Posted by Geaux8686
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:44 pm to
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Tom Osborne also never won fewer than 9 games.


TO's teams were better coached.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:48 pm to
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Bc 9-3 isn't satisfying to Neb fans. They want to be a national power again. It could backfire but nothing ventured, nothing gained.


They were a 9-3/10-2 team for fricking ever under Osborne until he finally broke through to win it all at the end of his career. They seem to think his 90s teams were the norm.

From 1973-1992 he only had 2 one loss years going 12-1 in 1982 and 1983. He likely lost a national title by going for the win outright instead of tying Miami in the Orange Bowl in 1983.

He was 12-13 overall in bowls and was just 8-13 before winning his last four in a row from 1994-1997.

It was only from 1993-1997 that his teams really dominated going 11-1, 13-0, 12-0, 11-2, 13-0 in succession.



This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 9:03 pm
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:48 pm to
at disneyland last week, sat and talked w/ a big nebraska donor. he said they don't like the pelini attitude of anger and rage.

he said neb never had a coach like pelini, and thought all coaches should be like tom osborn!

i never liked pelini's anger and i was surprised that he was offered the neb job after 07.
Posted by AirRaidTT
Grapevine, TX
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:02 pm to
Agreed. The admin was sick of his shite. He was so lackadaisical and arrogant that he even dared them to fire him once in a presser.
Posted by Requiem for a Dream
Member since Oct 2014
339 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:06 pm to
The difference between Pelini and Osborne is that Osborne won championships. Pelini never won anything. His biggest win was vs. Ohio State after Braxton Miller got knocked out of the game.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:08 pm to
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The difference between Pelini and Osborne is that Osborne won championships.


Osborne had it a hell of a lot easier in the Big 8 when he only had to worry about OU for the bulk of his career with CU/KSU replacing them in the 90s.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Requiem for a Dream
Member since Oct 2014
339 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:14 pm to
Gotta remember that Osborne was told that if they didn't beat Texas Tech in the bowl game after the 1976 season, that he was gone.

The Huskers won, 27-24.


And in response to your point, who else is really relevant in the Big 10? There's no excuse for Nebraska not to be contending for the league title on a regular basis.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 9:16 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:15 pm to
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he said they don't like the pelini attitude of anger and rage.


Makes sense. Pelini was a loose cannon for sure. Not a good representative for the school. Reminded me of Billy Gillispie at UK.

With that said, at least Pelini was winning good for Nebraska. 40 games over .500 in 7 seasons should make Nebraska fans forgive him.
Tom Osborne isn't walking thru that door, at least I don't think he is.
Posted by Requiem for a Dream
Member since Oct 2014
339 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:18 pm to
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With that said, at least Pelini was winning good for Nebraska. 40 games over .500 in 7 seasons should make Nebraska fans forgive him.



Once again, the # of wins is meaningless if there aren't any championships to show for it. Beating the lower tier teams in the conference, and getting blown out on the reg by the top-tier teams, just ain't gonna cut it.

Pelini's biggest problem is that he hired all of his buddies as his coordinators, and even though they sucked, he refused to replace them. I have no doubt that Eichorst told him he needed to make some changes, and Pelini tried to call his bluff, and lost his job because of it.
Posted by JohnnyBob
The Lake
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:55 pm to
Mighty Nebraska almost hired Houston Nutt from Arkansas, looked like a done deal and their jet was waiting at the Fayetteville airport, etc. But Houston Dale just loved the Razorbacks too much and stayed. Which in kind, began his decline. Maybe they could get Nutt on that plane this time?
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8973 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:10 pm to
KSU got Snyder out of retirement... Maybe Nebraska can convince Tom Osborne?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:20 am to
Wasn't really a good fit but he keep winning...
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5288 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:40 am to
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so why not hire someone who at least will represent the program well who is not a raging lunatic.
Maybe Osborne would have avoided all this if he had been professional enough to give Skip Bertman a courtesy call before hiring Pelini.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:36 am to
Lol everyone knows ole miss is paying players dude, Bo just had the balls to say so.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:49 am to
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It amazes me we never got hammered for recruiting violations under Orgeron


Quite possibly, never got hammered because Coach Orgeron never committed any recruiting violations?
Posted by Iam4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Dec 2011
627 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:18 am to
2 words why he was fired...Anger Management.

In today's world, great leaders have to have...

1) Communication Skills - An effective filter as to what comes out of their mouth because everyone listens and analyzes every single word.

2) Composure - Particularly when under Fire and criticism.

3) Emotional Intelligence - you have to really care about your effect on other people

Bo has several outstanding qualities...passion, intensity, focus, defensive minded smarts, competitiveness...all great for a DC. But he never developed the more mature leadership characteristics critical of an effective Head Coach of a D1 program. Why...never controlled his Anger Management issues in public display.
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