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re: My top 5 (w/ metrics)

Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
21 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

What does this mean ?

It means what it says. Example: BK clearly didn't put enough effort into physicality and toughness. Mike Elko does.

Is that a Tommy Moffitt thing? Maybe. But, Elko brought Moffitt in while BK kicked him out.
Posted by Lark225
Member since Mar 2019
1693 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:54 pm to
Prolly the worst move he made was firing moffit....if he was gonna bring Blake baker, corey raymond etc why not moffit? Js
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
21 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Prolly the worst move he made was firing moffit....if he was gonna bring Blake baker, corey raymond etc why not moffit? Js

I agree. Huge mistake.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24629 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

25.... Nuff said


What hasn't been said enough is that........ HE AIN'T COMING BACK TO LSU.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
11553 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Mike Shanahan (Indiana OC)
Consistent success - 5


How is this a 5?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35312 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:46 pm to
At LSU you have a Georgia grad being the potential big benefactor.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
21 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

How is this a 5?

He's been an OC for 4 years and has fielded a top 25 offense each of those years. Has fielded the #1 and #2 offense this year and last year. And he's done this at two different schools with completely different rosters.

I consider that consistent success.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82723 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:11 pm to
I swear some of y’all must not have jobs
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
10177 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Mike Gundy
Consistent success - 4
Coaches physicality - 4
Success in big games - 4
Recruiting - 4 (won't be a problem at LSU)
Personality/relationship with fanbase - 5
total - 21


Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
14075 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:36 pm to
I think you vastly underestimated Brohm. I’d personally rank him above everyone but Kiffin. I’d also prefer him over Kiffin. Also think you overestimate Freeman.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
11553 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

He's been an OC for 4 years and has fielded a top 25 offense each of those years. Has fielded the #1 and #2 offense this year and last year. And he's done this at two different schools with completely different rosters.

I consider that consistent success.


But you gave Kiffin a 4....your metric cannot be right. If he hasn't proven to be a successful head coach how can he have a higher success then any other candidate on this list? You can see where that makes zero sense right?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
21998 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Mike Shanahan (Indiana OC) Consistent success - 5 Coaches physicality - 3 Success in big games - 4 Recruiting - 2 Personality/relationship with fanbase - 3 total - 17


I am apprehensive about MS as a HC due to inexperience but I am all over him as OC candidate. He would need a lot of help in HC jump as in mentors.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
21 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

You can see where that makes zero sense right?

No. I am rating each of them relative to their own position. Why? Because it's perfectly reasonable to hire a coordinator that doesn't have HC experience. Most on my list happen to be head coaches, Shanahan is not. If "head coach experience" was one of my criteria, he would have a 0 and Kiffin would have a 5, but I don't care about head coach experience.

I think Shanahan has been more consistently successful at his position than Kiffin has been at Kiffin's position over the last 4 years. Does this not make sense to you?
Posted by TxWampus
Member since Oct 2021
258 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:56 pm to
The problem here is you didn’t provide a detailed description of your 5 metrics in a rubric that can be followed or calibrated. What you may see a a 5 for consistency I may see as a 3. Recruiting, vice versa. Your defense of your ratings is very subjective “I gave him a 5 here” why? By what measure, what stat line or outcome, what data are used to provide the levels within each 1 - category?
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 7:05 pm
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4680 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:02 pm to
Number of Posts: 14
Registered on: 11/10/2025


Smdh
Posted by tigerbait2019
Member since Dec 2020
200 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:50 pm to
Jeff Brohm would be so legit. He's not even on the current odds boards unfortunately....
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
21 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

The problem here is you didn’t provide a detailed description of your 5 metrics in a rubric that can be followed or calibrated. What you may see a a 5 for consistency I may see as a 3. Recruiting, vice versa. Your defense of your ratings is very subjective “I gave him a 5 here” why? By what measure, what stat line or outcome, what data are used to provide the levels within each 1 - category?

They are subjective ratings. I didn't claim these numbers were objective. In fact, I implied that my numbers may be off, because I don't have ALL the info.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
11553 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

I think Shanahan has been more consistently successful at his position than Kiffin has been at Kiffin's position over the last 4 years. Does this not make sense to you?


The logic is flawed. The responsibility of an OC is significantly less than that of a Head Coach. Kiffin also has a much longer track record of fielding good offenses and developing QBs.
Posted by Blueghost1978
Metairie, LA
Member since Jan 2024
571 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:13 pm to
Sit down Frank. You’re never gonna be our Coach.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
21 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Number of Posts: 14
Registered on: 11/10/2025


Smdh

I love how yall say this like it means anything at all.
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