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My only concern about the new hires...........

Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:42 am
Posted by BEAUXREGARD
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:42 am
is that there are an awful lot of alpha dogs on this staff. Can they work together?
Posted by Shanesix
Abita Springs
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:44 am to
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awful lot of alpha dogs


who has signed their names on the dotted line -- Is anything official?
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:49 am to
my concern as well...this will be Miles #1 challenge with O, because d-line will be his most important responsibility as far as the success of the team is concerned. Not sure if O can completely be a loyal subordinate to Chavis in that role.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9167 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:52 am to
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Not sure if O can completely be a loyal subordinate to Chavis in that role.

What has he done to make anyone question his loyalty?
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11633 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:53 am to
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my concern as well...this will be Miles #1 challenge with O, because d-line will be his most important responsibility as far as the success of the team is concerned. Not sure if O can completely be a loyal subordinate to Chavis in that role.


All the coaches are AlPHA'S....would you want any other kind?

There is enough ego on a college practice field to float a Goodyear blimp.
Posted by footballislife
Member since Mar 2007
3907 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:55 am to
I am not sure we have had enough alpha dogs on the staff recently. It will be nice to see coaches get in playes faces and make them show respect to the staff again.

Shouldn't be a problem and if it is, that coach can walk after this year.
Posted by LockdownDefense
Member since Aug 2008
4441 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:56 am to
Yeah, I understand that point. We have a coaching staff assembled similar to the way the Boston Celtics came together last year.

Posted by CTexTiger
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
4988 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 8:59 am to
If coach O is willing to leave a pro team to coach D line at the college level, and not as a head coach or coordinator, I don't see where the ego would come from.
Posted by djack13
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2005
393 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:03 am to
That's what he was @ SC and he did a great job. He did such a great job he received a hc position.
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
938 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:04 am to
If, in fact, O comes in making more than Chavis, there could be some friction, unless Chavis knew this going in and was on board. You'd think Chavis would have to have some level of dissention knowing one of his position coaches is making more than him.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:08 am to
Orgerons getting more b/c he is DL coach, assistant head coach, and recruiting coordinator
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:15 am to
Understood, but in the corporate world, this would create all sorts of issues. Does O, with the additional titles and compensation, feel he needs to be subordinate to Chavis while on the practice field or in the film room?
Posted by 58Flash
Member since Feb 2007
454 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:17 am to
O will do what he can to rebuild his rep. He can do just so much. If Vance gets the DBs he is aggressive, too. Hope the Chief is strong! You know that he tried for a HC, so maybe BEBE can be ready for the step up when the Chief goes. There will be some action on this LSU team. GEAUX.....................TIGAHS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12593 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:20 am to
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is that there are an awful lot of alpha dogs on this staff. Can they work together?


Orgeron and Chavis sniffing butts to determine pecking order is a beautiful picture.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81671 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:33 am to
you've said "but but but in the corporate world" 50 times already. Football is not the corporate world.

Chavis played good little foot soldier to Fulmer for two decades, he's not gonna freak out because LSU paid someone a lot of money to give him a shitload of defensive talent to play with.
Posted by Tiger n Chains
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2006
2141 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 10:05 am to
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an awful lot of alpha dogs on this staff

Who? Miles? Crowton? Chavis?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21558 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 10:37 am to
All of these have been assistants before and should understand that's their role here.

There's probably always gonna be some friction among a coaching staff and most coaches have some degree of "alpha" element.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85588 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 10:42 am to
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Orgeron and Chavis sniffing butts to determine pecking order is a beautiful picture.


Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3432 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 10:57 am to
Something tells me Miles discussed these issues with Chavis in the interview process. Do yall honestly think he would sneak this in and lose his most important hires trust. I would venture to guess Miles approach to the Chief was we are going to pay you 500k to coach and prepare the defense. You will not have to hit the road recruiting like most of the staff. We are going to hire the best recruiter in the nation to do that job, but we are going to have to pay him.

I am in the corporate world in a profession that makes similar incomes and all I worry about is my salary and don't compare it with my colleagues that have different responsibilities. The Chief wouldn't have signed if he wasn't satisfied with his .150k raise.
Posted by CobaltTugger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
66 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 11:07 am to
Shouldn't be a problem as long as O isn't a prima donna. I had a guy that made more than me once and I wanted to pay him more. He was worth two "normal" employees.

If you have someone who is good at what they do and they're not a complete arse, it's not a problem at all.
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