re: Mel Tucker isn't a bad coach at all.

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I know you guys want the next Saban, but this guy took a rock bottom Michigan State team and has them in the hunt right now.

Isn't what we want someone who can come in and have success immediately? He checks that box.

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Let's not act like he took over Kansas. MSU had been to 3 straight bowls, with a 10-win season in there, before Dantonio was forced out.

Tucker won 2 games last year, and is midway through his 2nd season. Part of their success this year can be attributed to the many P5 transfers he brought in that were immediately eligible due to Covid.

Let's pump the brakes on this guy.

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Enlighten me because I keep asking and all I get is "well, look how well it went last time we hired from Michigan State".

Give me the single best argument/stat/record in favor of hiring him.

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It's concerning people are already ready to settle on the idea of him.

Because he took over a bad program and didn't lose every game then he gets all this extra credit. Michigan St has been an excellent program in the past. They haven't played a single team with a winning record yet? They are likely about to lose 4 or 5 games. Let's see how they finish.

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Let's pump the brakes on this guy.

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Nobody is saying it’s a slam dunk, just that it’s not automatically the worst hire ever

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this guy took a rock bottom Michigan State team and has them in the hunt right now.

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Michigan State hasn't played anybody yet. Let's revisit this when the season's over. They could easily drop 3 or 4 of their final 5 games.

Just because he's, in your words, not a "bad coach at all" doesn't mean he's the guy that Woodward should hire. Hopefully Scott is aiming higher.

I have a friend who is a pretty big Michigan State fan and he swears D’Antonio left the program in bad shape and loves Tucker.

I’m not going to pretend to have watched his teams play but between that and hearing how he’s regarded in coaching circles has me at a point where I don’t think it would be a bad choice if we can’t get one of our A tier candidates to bite.

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Franklin and Tucker should not be candidates. Not impressed with either.

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Franklin is a legitimate candidate, though.

Impressive record at Vandy, including Top 25 finishes the last 2 seasons. Working with the baggage at Penn State has posted 3 Top 10 finishes, is 2-1 in NY6 Bowls, 3 11-win seasons.

Tucker has done exactly nothing comparable to that. Very hot and cold as a coordinator in the NFL and his CFB head coaching record remains underwhelming (despite the current season flash).

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This is true, but by the same token if they finish 11-1 will you still hate the idea of hiring him?

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I would still have a problem with it. It's his 2nd season, and he brought in a ton of transfers.

If one great year is good enough, then we should be talking more about your man PJ being considered for the job. He has a more robust head coaching resume of program building.

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If one great year is good enough, then we should be talking more about your man PJ being considered for the job.

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Well that goes without saying but losing to Bowling Green will cool you off

My only point is that if you can’t get a A tier candidate then Tucker isn’t really all that more or less risky than a lot of guys out there.

I mean if we hired Kiffin and had a few nice seasons before he flamed out, would you really be surprised? I would hire Kiffin before Tucker fwiw but you can’t say he’s no risk.

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He also led Michigan State to 2-5 last year, including a loss to Rutgers.

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That was Year 1 when he had to be the guy to replace Dantonio around February of that offseason.