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re: Malzahn in play for Cleveland

Posted on 1/1/14 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by beardedzeus
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 10:48 pm to
Plus they may draft jff
Posted by Sigma
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 10:54 pm to
Gus's offense is not suited for the current state of the NFL, and it's not because he runs his QB a lot. Anybody that has watched AU since 2009 can see a serious lack of an intermediate passing game, which is vital. Not so much in college.

This is not to say the Browns aren't interested or wouldn't hire him, but if they do their due diligence, we'll see.
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:11 pm to
People said the same thing about Chip Kelly, s offense and there he is in the playoffs. That said Kelly also had several successful seasons at the collegiate level and not just one. Chizick had one great year and so did Coker. Malzahn may end up in the pros but I would assume he needs a larger body of work to be given a NFL job. That said if offered he definitely needs to interview and if he is impressive in interview whether he intends to take the job or not it could pay huge dividend in the future and get his name out there.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 11:12 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:20 pm to
If they offer I could see him leaving. But I don't see it as likely that he is offered tbough
Posted by Sigma
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:27 pm to
Granted the NFL is the NFL but Gus has shown he will wait if the situation isn't right. He could've tripled his salary and become an SEC head coach in 2011 but felt Vandy wasn't the way he wanted to make his debut. I don't think anyone will argue that Cleveland 2014 is the best situation either.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:57 pm to
Why would the Browns hire Swartz as DC before they hired / had their head coaches input?

Maybe the Browns have hired a coach but can't speak about the hiring! !!! But why ?

Most college coaches would just leave, unless you are in the BCSNCG.

Something made Cleveland fire a coach after 1 year, VERY ODD.

I smell something fishy going on
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:00 am to
Why would the Browns hire Swartz as DC before they hired / had their head coaches input?

Maybe the Browns have hired a coach but can't speak about the hiring! !!! But why ?

Most college coaches would just leave, unless you are in the BCSNCG.

Something made Cleveland fire a coach after 1 year, VERY ODD.

I smell something fishy going on
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 6:34 am to
As much as I hate to admit it there's logic in that statement. I still find it hard to believe Malzahn who was coaching high school ball a few short years ago is ready for the challenge of the NFL.
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:40 am to
Wait until the Never to Yield Foundation gets wind of this. They'll shut down the whole NFL.
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:43 am to
Their personnel had a lot to do with this. Their passing game was pretty damn good when he had a QB that could actually pass the ball (the laptop thief). Gus is a fine football coach and all he's ever done is win. PERIOD.

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Gus's offense is not suited for the current state of the NFL, and it's not because he runs his QB a lot. Anybody that has watched AU since 2009 can see a serious lack of an intermediate passing game, which is vital. Not so much in college. This is not to say the Browns aren't interested or wouldn't hire him, but if they do their due diligence, we'll see.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:15 am to
the question should be why would any decent football coach want to coach the browns?... they just fired a good OC turn head coach after 11 months on the job.

Cleveland is a fuking coaching graveyard... bill bellichek couldn't win there.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:28 am to
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bill bellichek couldn't win there.


He did win there
Posted by doghouse_4x4
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:29 am to
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He did win there


wat.

He was 36-44. The shame of that stint made him the raging dick he is today.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Gus's offense is not suited for the current state of the NFL, and it's not because he runs his QB a lot. Anybody that has watched AU since 2009 can see a serious lack of an intermediate passing game, which is vital. Not so much in college.


In Malzahn's "stock" offense, intermediate passing is a major part. What he's doing now with the read option and what he did with Cam aren't what his textbook offense does.

That said, I highly doubt he's interested in the Browns, the Browns are interested in him, and that he is ready to take his show to the NFL.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:33 am to
quote:

wat.

He was 36-44. The shame of that stint made him the raging dick he is today.


Went to the playoffs in the second year and had a winning record the next year when Art announced the team was moving and everyone stopped caring.

He also wasn't Bill fricking Belechek when he was in Cleveland. It was his first HC job.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:12 am to
the fact remains that cleveland is a disaster of a franchise and should be avoided at all costs (assuming you value your career).... who would want to work for a team that just fired their 1st year head coach and with an Owner who should be going to prison?

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52352 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:30 am to
No offense brah, but AU was a dumpster fire when Gus got there. Just be thankful that you guys finally have a coach what someone besides Auburn wants. That hasn't been the case for quite a while.


quote:

the fact remains that cleveland is a disaster of a franchise and should be avoided at all costs (assuming you value your career).... who would want to work for a team that just fired their 1st year head coach and with an Owner who should be going to prison?
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

That hasn't been the case for quite a while.


I seem to remember tubbs being courted a bit, and he didn't stay out of coaching longs, so clearly he wasn't undesirable.

But you're right, pretty sure we were bidding against ourself for chiz.
Posted by warau
Member since Nov 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:41 am to
quote:

In Malzahn's "stock" offense, intermediate passing is a major part.


Couldn't be more wrong here. I love Gus and his offense but there is no intermediate passing game to speak of. Lots of vertical stuff and screens but not much in the 10-15 yrd range. Rarely runs slants
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20697 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:57 am to
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Couldn't be more wrong here. I love Gus and his offense but there is no intermediate passing game to speak of. Lots of vertical stuff and screens but not much in the 10-15 yrd range. Rarely runs slants



In his defense though who among those qb's was considered a solid passer? Noodle arm Chris Todd? The biggest knock on Cam was his passing ability which steadily got better as the season went on.. Frazier and Moseley didn't exactly scare anyone with their passing abilities either. Marshall has been solid, but it's obvious he has a lot of work to do in regards to his passing game.

I guess my point is that it's hard to have to good intermediate passing game when you look at the abilities of the qb's he has worked with. Vertical routes and screens and pretty safe as far as passing plays goes.
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