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re: Let's talk Ed O's hires so far
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:47 pm to Tiger Tracker
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:47 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Well a coach in year 1 with a new offense vs a coach in year 10+ with the same stale offense isn't really comparing apples to apples is it?
maybe not but comparing this to your typical year one regime isn't exactly apples to apples either is it?
oh and you mean the old coach that would insist upon playing the senior QB and meddle in the offense? Yeah totally different so far, O didn't do that at all
not screaming doom and gloom but the stars aligned pretty well for us this year and the results weren't much better.
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:48 pm to Nutriaitch
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gauntlet?
Arkansas, Tennessee, and Ole Piss COMBINED to win a whopping 4 conference games this year.
Florida isn’t even bowl eligible.
Yes and we had a new offense and young D. Just like i said in my previous post. Also, didn't we handily beat those teams like we should have? What more did you want?
I used the term "gauntlet" because there were so many SEC games in a row which is tough.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:48 pm to Goldrush25
That's not accurate either. Most coaches change based on personnel. Saban has gone from 3-4 to 4-3 and back during his career.
Just say you hate Orgeron and nothing he does will make you happy. It's OK. I don't care, because I don't really like him either. But also don't make up completely false scenarios and themes about him and his staff.
Just say you hate Orgeron and nothing he does will make you happy. It's OK. I don't care, because I don't really like him either. But also don't make up completely false scenarios and themes about him and his staff.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:49 pm to Tiger Tracker
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we had a new offense
that he sand bagged after swearing he wouldn't
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:49 pm to BilJ
Going with the senior QB was the right call. Orgeron should get credit for sticking with Etling.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:51 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Going with the senior QB was the right call. Orgeron should get credit for sticking with Etling.
not if the guy he hired that was told he had total autonomy prefers Brennan to run his offense
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:55 pm to BilJ
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oh and you mean the old coach that would insist upon playing the senior QB and meddle in the offense? Yeah totally different so far, O didn't do that at all
Didn't O stop meddling though? I don't agree with it, but he did stop didn't he?
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not screaming doom and gloom but the stars aligned pretty well for us this year and the results weren't much better.
Stars aligned for what? We weren't going to beat Bama with Etling, and Brennan was in no way ready for that game. It is what it is. Like i said before the first part of the season was off the rails and O deserves criticism for that. He coddled the players, meddled in the offense, and wasn't being an effective leader, but no one gives him any credit for getting us back on track and finishing strong. I am interested to see if the upward trend continues. I really hated the hire, but i hope the upward trend continues and i get proven wrong long term
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:58 pm to Tiger Tracker
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but he did stop didn't he
after a historically embarrassing loss and the AD sat him in timeout until he could play nice
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:58 pm to BilJ
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prefers Brennan to run his offense
Did Canada say this? This is honestly the first i have heard that Canada wanted Brennan to start but O wouldn't let him.
He would have gotten killed out there anyway. Dude was at like 80 lbs this year
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:03 pm to BilJ
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so its debatable but you chose not to do that? Pete is probably the only one I was overly critical on, the rest are pretty fair assessments
I mean, it's pretty obvious you're not a fan of Orgeron, so what is there to debate?
I think you're letting soundbites drive your opinion of the Canada hire. Overall he did what he was brought in to do, and he isn't being "run off".
Same with Joseph, he was brought in to get you into Nola livingrooms, and he is. This is just part of the politics of the position at LSU. Besides that, you have Russell Gage as a top 3 receiver. I honestly don't know what that says about the guy's coaching. Signing day will tell us a lot more about him, but I think this hire was a push. Can you really point to WR play this year and say it was exceptionally bad or good?
Pete has pro bowlers paying him to coach them. He was only here as a personal favor to Orgeron. He does you no good if he can't be hands on with the players. This was a no brainer, and the only people who questioned it were rantards. Austin Thomas recruiting in his place signed two five stars, so you can't play the recruiting card here. That's a good move all the way around.
I don't know jack shite about McManhon but that hasn't even happened, so like I said you're splitting hairs.
No staff is A+'s across the board, that's just not real life, nor was that ever part of the deal.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:03 pm to The Godfather
"Any idiot can coach LSU to 10 wins"
-LSU fans in 2015
"Coach O did a great job this year to win 9"
-LSU fans today
-LSU fans in 2015
"Coach O did a great job this year to win 9"
-LSU fans today
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:06 pm to The Godfather
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Teams Orgeron beat:
a bad BYU team (3-9)
a bad FCS school (3-8)
a bad Syracuse (barely) (4-8)
a bad Florida team (by a missed extra point) (4-7)
Auburn (very good win) (10-2)
a bad Ole Miss Team (6-6)
a bad Arkansas team (4-8)
a historically bad Tennessee (4-8)
a mediocre A&M (7-5)
Pretty depressing to me
If the SEC was up, specifically the West, we are a 6 or 7 win team.
This schedule was set up for 10 wins minimum, minus the bowl.
Troy.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:08 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Same with Joseph, he was brought in to get you into Nola livingrooms, and he is
What has he done on the recruiting trail? Or do you literally mean getting to visit Chase and Co before they go off to college elsewhere is enough.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:11 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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think you're letting soundbites drive your opinion of the Canada hire. Overall he did what he was brought in to do, and he isn't being "run off
no I've gotten some pretty good specifics that its a bad relationship both want out of. If you're putting in for the Rice job while making what he is here, you're looking to get the hell out of dodge
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but I think this hire was a push.
how many NOLA guys do we have? Which recruits are associated with Mickey?
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Can you really point to WR play this year and say it was exceptionally bad or good?
yes I think I can say it was pretty lousy. Bringing in a consultant to coach your WR coach is telling. This hire is not a push
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don't know jack shite about McManhon
start a thread on saints talk and get their thoughts, it won't be glowing.
and I said I may have been overly hard on Pete, I agree he's a great coach. But you cannot deny that recruits knowing he was a short term hire did not somewhat hurt. A DL recruit said as much last year
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:12 pm to BilJ
quote:the last 6 games, lsu averaged 30+ ppg and only lost at bama despite some significant hurdles left behind by miles. the team clearly trended in the right direction. about to upgrade at qb. no reason why next year won't pick up where this year left off.
B on the initial hire, D in execution because you did what you said you were not going to do and meddled
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:13 pm to Maximus
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What has he done on the recruiting trail? Or do you literally mean getting to visit Chase and Co before they go off to college elsewhere is enough.
I said it was a push. If he gets Keys and Chase in addition to Jones then I don't see how you could talk shite about the hire.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:14 pm to BilJ
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BilJ
So in your opinion what has O done well?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:17 pm to BilJ
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since this whole thing relies upon him hiring more intelligent people than himself, its probably something we should discuss.
So you base this on the way the man speaks? You are a fricking idiot! Why don't you get from behind that keyboard and go and discuss that topic with him, lets see what answer he would give you
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:17 pm to Tiger Tracker
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So in your opinion what has O done well?
stays the hell out of Aranda's way
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:19 pm to The Godfather
quote:people always look at these things in a vacuum. lsu's sos is not bad. sagarin has lsu at 60, bama at 54, uga at 48, msu at 53 so lsu isn't so far off from those teams. espn fpi has lsu at 20.
The combined record of teams he beat is 45-61
also, lsu had some well documented hurdles to overcome left behind by miles. yet, lsu wins 6 of the last 7 and clearly improves.
you may return to your previously scheduled narrative.
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