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re: Leach canned

Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
4016 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:36 pm to
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I find it strange that no coach or player is coming to the defense of James.

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if the treatment was as bad as the James' claim don't you think another person would come out and backup their story?


Now that Leach has been dismissed, I predict we'll soon hear Bob Ley interviewing someone else coming forward to say, "This happened to me too."
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
28000 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:37 pm to
I'll bet Leach is sorry he ever let Adam on the team. From his recruiting profile, it appears TT was his only D-1 offer.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
28000 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:39 pm to
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Now that Leach has been dismissed, I predict we'll soon hear Bob Ley interviewing someone else coming forward to say, "This happened to me too."


I will gladly change my opinion if that person is credible. I will have my doubts if it comes from someone who was kicked off the team for disciplinary issues or transferred because of playing time.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62954 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:44 pm to
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I find it strange that no coach or player is coming to the defense of James.


Now that Leach is gone. You might after the bowl game.

You can bet the higher ups went by just more than this one thing. They moved quick, found out more info to backup the story. If there was more than one story, it too was looked into. They built a case from the get-go.
This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:46 pm to
TTTTT—Tommy Tumorville To Texas Teach.
Posted by HONDEAUX
Out Yonder
Member since Sep 2009
592 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 1:55 pm to
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I'll bet Leach is sorry he ever let Adam on the team. From his recruiting profile, it appears TT was his only D-1 offer.


Not only that, the receivers coach at TT told Leach he didn't want James - didn't think he could play. Leach overrode him and brought James on scholarship. Don't think he won't be mulling over the irony of that decision for a while.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50055 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:00 pm to
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Does he want to be an OC? I know of a job he could have...


hush your mouth I don't want that nutt job anywhere near LSU. I don't care how good his offense is. The risk isn't worth the reward.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:01 pm to
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Leach was the best thing to ever happen to that football program.


you are correct. the more i hear about this, the more i am taking Leaches side. all coaches punish players for behavioral issues (even the old fashioned run the stands deal) and while this punishment is bizarre, he did not endanger the boy. i think TT is getting ready to pay for Leaches lawyer and a good bit of the remainder of his contract. certainly no less than the 400k/yr his contract purportedly calls for. add the negative press and the real negative press when Leach sues them, this is a major bad deal for TT. look for them to plummet to last place in the Big 12 soon.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:03 pm to
I don't think this firing had ANYTHING to do with James. It is a convenient fig leaf to fire a coach who makes a lot of money but has never won a conference title. Yes, he's brought TT national attention, but he has been unable to get over the hump. If you're gonna go 8-3 every year and not compete for titles, can't you save a few bucks?

Though I love his offense.
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:04 pm to
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I don't want that nutt job anywhere near LSU.


Wait...WHA???
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50055 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:08 pm to
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Though I love his offense.


Love it all you want, but if you like championships you will never want it at LSU. Them type offenses never have and probably never will win big in college football.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:10 pm to
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this kid shouldn't get mistreated if he is injured.


being in a dark room is not mistreatment. there have been some things reported that may or may not be true (big surprise). we haven't heard leaches side yet nor the story from the trainers. he did not hurt the kid.

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Theres too many coaches who are getting their rocks off by bullying a bunch of teenagers.


you have no proof of this nor do you have proof that leach was getting his rocks off by bullying james. all sports teams discipline players when needed (although being banished to a dark room is a new one to me). leach has coached too many years for me to assume he is perverted.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10226 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:10 pm to
I think he was fired to prevent Leach from proving TT wrong and getting a restraining order against them this morning. I bet they honor his buy out in a few days. They dont want a long drawn out fight that will tarnish the TT rep.
As it is I dont see how they will find a decent coach that will take the job. Something is really strange about this whole deal. I think the AD is nuttier than Leach.
Posted by HONDEAUX
Out Yonder
Member since Sep 2009
592 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:11 pm to
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Yes, he's brought TT national attention, but he has been unable to get over the hump. If you're gonna go 8-3 every year and not compete for titles, can't you save a few bucks?


It's bullshite like this that just makes you wonder if there is a brain in their head.

Leach elevated the fundraising at Texas Tech to new levels, and got them recognition they had not ever had - he's the winningest coach in their program's history.

He made money for the university. To lose him is to lose his ability to do that. I agree with most other posters. Texas Tech is going to go right back to the basement of the Big 12. They will look back and wish for an 8-3 season.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:19 pm to
I agree. I think they Texas Tech had a sandy vagina from his contract issues last year. I think they were looking to unload him.

My prediction: Kevin Sumlin of Houston
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:21 pm to
I want to be clear, I don't endorse that view, but I know a lot of Texas Tech fans, and many feel this way. My co-worker who is a huge TT fan is actually happy Leach is fired cuz he thinks he's overrated.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:24 pm to
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Love it all you want, but if you like championships you will never want it at LSU. Them type offenses never have and probably never will win big in college football.

The spread? Because Florida seems to be doing okay with it.
Posted by RandyMarsh
South Park
Member since Dec 2009
1770 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:27 pm to
I hate when people see coaches using 3-5 wideouts as a base set and assume they are running the same offense.

Florida runs a balanced spread with a ton of formations.

Oregon runs the spread option - a running based offense.

Texas Tech runs the "Air Raid" offense. Name says it all. Houston, SMU, and a few other schools run this offense.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10226 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:31 pm to
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Yes, he's brought TT national attention, but he has been unable to get over the hump. If you're gonna go 8-3 every year and not compete for titles, can't you save a few bucks?


You have to remember TT is TT. It is hard if not impossible to compete there. TT is a Little school in the middle on no where. Literally Bump F Egypt.

I have a friend that went to school there still supports them and Loves Mike Leach. He is disowning the School because of this. He told me most TT fans idolize ML. I have a feeling that TT football is going to have a difficult time recovering from this.
Posted by StarkvilleTigerFan
Muncie, IN
Member since Jan 2005
3996 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:34 pm to
Well up here in Indiana-I can see a similar situation. Now granted Bob Knight had his antics and all but was a very sucessful coach. He was given a final warning not because Miles brand wanted to keep him-because the boosters and alumni did not want to see him go. Miles had it out for Knight and was watching his every move just waiting for the moment to fire him. That moment came when a student disrespected him in the union and Knight calmly grabbed the kid by the arm and told him he should not address adults like that. Like Leach, several people including the arse. coach backed up the story about how Knight didn't get rough or out of line with the student. But...Miles used it to get rid of him. Indiana basketball has NEVER recovered and probably won't for a while. My point is when someone is out to get you...they will just like the Ad at Tech. It appears to me he needs to go as well and from what I'm hearing-both he and the president of the school may be in for a tough time over this. In fact-the Ad may just want to get out of town for a few weeks.
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