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re: Kelvin Sheppard and Fran brown are my Top 2 choices

Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Or maecus freeman? The up and comer is the way to go. Brian Kelly had years of winning at notre dame didn’t mean a damn thing here


Marcus Freeman hasn't proven to really be better than BK.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:42 pm to
And already leading a top ranked defense.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67562 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:45 pm to
Fran Brown is 13-8 at Syracuse.


Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23040 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:47 pm to
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Anyone that wants to hire a defensive coach is a complete moron

I'm going to disagree with this statement...

You want your HC to run a program first, not a scheme. So that's your primary concern.

That said, guys do tend to lean on what got them there. They usually hire coordinators to run a version of their schemes.

If you get an offensive-minded coach, you're married to his system, for better or worse. Same applies to a defensive-minded coach.

I think for LSU, you want a defensive-minded HC. You want a guy who focuses on man coverage, because that's something LSU can recruit.

Offense, I think you want to have some flexibility. The current rage is the shotgun spread offenses, but offenses tend to change over time. I think LSU might be better suited running a different style of offense than they do, but this is Kelly's offense; it won't change a lot. You might get better playcalls, but not a major scheme change. Doesn't matter who the OC is.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:09 pm to
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If Sheppard continues on his current trajectory he may be the guy in 5 years or so
On his current trajectory he’ll be closer to coaching an NFL team. Come on
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4763 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:11 pm to
Shepp all the way
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288881 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:13 pm to
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You want your HC to run a program first, not a scheme.


100% . . .

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30604 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:22 pm to
Who would be on your list Lester?
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6387 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:24 pm to
If Kelvin Sheppard continues in his current trajectory, he will be a NFL head coach in 5 years.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3668 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:30 pm to
Yeah
How’s that Kirby guy working out at Georgia
Posted by Ptguru21
Member since Nov 2015
750 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:41 pm to
Why would an NFL coach leave the NFL lifestyle for the circus of college? He’s not getting a $10M contract to make it worth it
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:45 pm to
The criteria starts with an offensive coach. Someone with a turnkey system that can make pointed decisions on which QB fits into the system year to year.

Kiffin obviously has done this each year. He also clearly has some warts.

Eli Drinkwitz, I think, probably runs a more overall dynamic program. Has not quite been the mercenary on offense that Kiffin has with his QB successes, but he is good at picking coaches and running a team, on top of commanding an offense.

Rhett Lashlee - multiple years of offensive success w/ 3 different QBs in 4 seasons at SMU

Jeff Lebby- like his offensive pedigree & the way his team has played, despite lack of talent.



I have not started to research much more past that. But I like guys in this mold.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23040 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:01 pm to
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You want your HC to run a program first, not a scheme.



100% . . .



I guess we're just going to disagree, then.

Saban, the most successful coach in modern history, ran the program.
He changed his offensive schemes majorly; he started out ground-and-pound, to not hinder his defense. Ball control, heavy emphasis on run, minimal mistakes. By the time he left, he was running wide open offenses averaging 40+ a game.

Defensively, he was always about good fundamentals in the secondary, with tight coverage that could last about 3 seconds, and a d line that limited your passing time to that timeframe, and would stop the run. His defenses were great until they ran into people who extended that time (Manziel, Watson etc).
He never wanted to contain, he wanted to stuff.

You bring in an offensive guy, and if he's married to a particular style he will be good up until that style is figured out. Then he has to change, something he likely will resist (as it goes against his experience and philosophy). He will probably want to just run his offense "better", instead of flipping to something completely different.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288881 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Saban


Stopped there. Never make comparisons to historical outliers.


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You bring in an offensive guy, and if he's married to a particular style he will be good up until that style is figured out.


Good offenses are not being stopped by good defenses.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15195 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:23 pm to
You stupid frick
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15195 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:25 pm to
Hey you ignorant frick
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7934 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:26 pm to
Definitely a young up and coming coach that has demonstrated success without the benefit of a hot shot QB...their success has to be from a team, not one player.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23040 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:00 pm to
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Saban



Stopped there. Never make comparisons to historical outliers.


Ok, Kirby. Elko. Freeman. We can go on, if you want to look.


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Good offenses are not being stopped by good defenses.

Of course they will be. That's the nature of football; teams adapt to what others are doing.
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