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re: Kelvin Sheppard and Fran brown are my Top 2 choices
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:37 pm to Cd104
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:37 pm to Cd104
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Or maecus freeman? The up and comer is the way to go. Brian Kelly had years of winning at notre dame didn’t mean a damn thing here
Marcus Freeman hasn't proven to really be better than BK.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:42 pm to DBG
And already leading a top ranked defense.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:45 pm to Cd104
Fran Brown is 13-8 at Syracuse.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:47 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I'm going to disagree with this statement...
Anyone that wants to hire a defensive coach is a complete moron
You want your HC to run a program first, not a scheme. So that's your primary concern.
That said, guys do tend to lean on what got them there. They usually hire coordinators to run a version of their schemes.
If you get an offensive-minded coach, you're married to his system, for better or worse. Same applies to a defensive-minded coach.
I think for LSU, you want a defensive-minded HC. You want a guy who focuses on man coverage, because that's something LSU can recruit.
Offense, I think you want to have some flexibility. The current rage is the shotgun spread offenses, but offenses tend to change over time. I think LSU might be better suited running a different style of offense than they do, but this is Kelly's offense; it won't change a lot. You might get better playcalls, but not a major scheme change. Doesn't matter who the OC is.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:09 pm to Demonbengal
quote:On his current trajectory he’ll be closer to coaching an NFL team. Come on
If Sheppard continues on his current trajectory he may be the guy in 5 years or so
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:13 pm to Scoob
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You want your HC to run a program first, not a scheme.
100% . . .

Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:22 pm to Lester Earl
Who would be on your list Lester?
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:24 pm to Demonbengal
If Kelvin Sheppard continues in his current trajectory, he will be a NFL head coach in 5 years.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:30 pm to PurpleSingularity
Yeah
How’s that Kirby guy working out at Georgia
How’s that Kirby guy working out at Georgia
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:41 pm to Cd104
Why would an NFL coach leave the NFL lifestyle for the circus of college? He’s not getting a $10M contract to make it worth it
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:45 pm to MOT
The criteria starts with an offensive coach. Someone with a turnkey system that can make pointed decisions on which QB fits into the system year to year.
Kiffin obviously has done this each year. He also clearly has some warts.
Eli Drinkwitz, I think, probably runs a more overall dynamic program. Has not quite been the mercenary on offense that Kiffin has with his QB successes, but he is good at picking coaches and running a team, on top of commanding an offense.
Rhett Lashlee - multiple years of offensive success w/ 3 different QBs in 4 seasons at SMU
Jeff Lebby- like his offensive pedigree & the way his team has played, despite lack of talent.
I have not started to research much more past that. But I like guys in this mold.
Kiffin obviously has done this each year. He also clearly has some warts.
Eli Drinkwitz, I think, probably runs a more overall dynamic program. Has not quite been the mercenary on offense that Kiffin has with his QB successes, but he is good at picking coaches and running a team, on top of commanding an offense.
Rhett Lashlee - multiple years of offensive success w/ 3 different QBs in 4 seasons at SMU
Jeff Lebby- like his offensive pedigree & the way his team has played, despite lack of talent.
I have not started to research much more past that. But I like guys in this mold.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:01 pm to Lester Earl
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You want your HC to run a program first, not a scheme.
100% . . .
I guess we're just going to disagree, then.
Saban, the most successful coach in modern history, ran the program.
He changed his offensive schemes majorly; he started out ground-and-pound, to not hinder his defense. Ball control, heavy emphasis on run, minimal mistakes. By the time he left, he was running wide open offenses averaging 40+ a game.
Defensively, he was always about good fundamentals in the secondary, with tight coverage that could last about 3 seconds, and a d line that limited your passing time to that timeframe, and would stop the run. His defenses were great until they ran into people who extended that time (Manziel, Watson etc).
He never wanted to contain, he wanted to stuff.
You bring in an offensive guy, and if he's married to a particular style he will be good up until that style is figured out. Then he has to change, something he likely will resist (as it goes against his experience and philosophy). He will probably want to just run his offense "better", instead of flipping to something completely different.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:04 pm to Scoob
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Saban
Stopped there. Never make comparisons to historical outliers.
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You bring in an offensive guy, and if he's married to a particular style he will be good up until that style is figured out.
Good offenses are not being stopped by good defenses.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:26 pm to Cd104
Definitely a young up and coming coach that has demonstrated success without the benefit of a hot shot QB...their success has to be from a team, not one player.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:00 pm to Lester Earl
quote:quote:
Saban
Stopped there. Never make comparisons to historical outliers.
Ok, Kirby. Elko. Freeman. We can go on, if you want to look.
quote:Of course they will be. That's the nature of football; teams adapt to what others are doing.
Good offenses are not being stopped by good defenses.
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