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Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:10 am to tconle2
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Jimbo isn't a top5 coach.
Neither is Kirby. College football is an arms race, whoever spends the most wins the most.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:13 am to The Pirate King
quote:You can really play dumb when you want to. When people say top job they mean the top candidates would want to come here. Why would guys like Day, Smart, Swinney, Saban, Riley, or Fisher leave their jobs? Fisher gets paid insane amounts of money to be mediocre, UGA, Oklahoma, and Ohio St are right up there with LSU as a top job already. Dabo made Clemson relevant in the modern era, and Saban has built a kingdom at one of the most historic football programs in the country.
There seems to be a large number of people who think LSU is a top 5 job that every coach will be fighting over, and that never comes to fruition.
Do we think any of the realistic candidates are top 5 coaches in America?
Franklin - no
Tucker - hell no
Aranda - no
Napier - no
Kiffin - no
When people talk top 5 that means taking a guy like James Franklin away from Penn St. Franklin likely finishes 10-3 this year giving him 4 double digit win seasons in the past 6 years. That might also put him in the top 10 making it 4 top 10 finishes in the past 6 years. How in the HELL can you hate that given the recruiting restrictions (harder to get into), and Ohio St, Michigan, recruiting as they do. Hell even Maryland has had 3 top 25 classes the past 4 years, in the same division. He has 4 straight top 15 recruiting finishes and one being 6th overall.
As of right now he is the biggest, most successful, most consistent, and at the highest peak of realistic candidates.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:14 am to arkytiger
Josh Pate. OG
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:28 am to Jim Rockford
Think if we would have hired Kirby when Georgia did. Everyone would have melted. A younger aggressive coach with LSU resources will make it a top 5 job
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:02 am to The Pirate King
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There seems to be a large number of people who think LSU is a top 5 job that every coach will be fighting over, and that never comes to fruition.
Do we think any of the realistic candidates are top 5 coaches in America?
Did you think Les Miles or Ed Orgeron was a Top 5 coach?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:12 am to TeamLSU
Just because it’s a top 5 job in CFB doesn’t mean you can hire one of the five best. They’re already successful at schools that pay them a lot and are at schools heavily invested in football. I think Franklin is easily the best option of those potentially/realistically available. I think Napier is the best option of the up and coming coaches. The last three HC’s at LSU have won NC’s so there will be a lot of interest for sure.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 6:31 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:14 am to Txtiger90
It's what Tennessee thought they were getting with Pruitt. He too was a great DC that could recruit. Kirby panned out Pruitt didn't.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:42 am to Magician2
I would be happy with Luke Fickell or Freeze would be great.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 6:45 am to The Pirate King
Nick Saban is the gold standard & very few coaches come close to his success rate. Personally, I think James Franklin is a great coach. What he did at Vanderbilt was unprecedented. I’d say that job is the toughest in the SEC. I’d pursue him, but I doubt he will leave PSU.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:01 am to Jdiggy
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Everyone said top 5 job when we ended up with Orgeron
A job so good we couldn't even land the HC of UH as I recall.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:02 am to Datbayoubengal
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When people talk top 5 that means taking a guy like James Franklin away from Penn St. Franklin likely finishes 10-3 this year giving him 4 double digit win seasons in the past 6 years. That might also put him in the top 10 making it 4 top 10 finishes in the past 6 years. How in the HELL can you hate that given the recruiting restrictions (harder to get into), and Ohio St, Michigan, recruiting as they do. Hell even Maryland has had 3 top 25 classes the past 4 years, in the same division. He has 4 straight top 15 recruiting finishes and one being 6th overall.
As of right now he is the biggest, most successful, most consistent, and at the highest peak of realistic candidates.
Yet he has losing records against teams that matter.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:08 am to Datbayoubengal
quote:Theres no reason to believe he’s playing.
You can really play dumb when you want to
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:10 am to Jdiggy
quote:
Everyone said top 5 job when we ended up with Orgeron
Alleva
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:41 am to Jdiggy
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Everyone said top 5 job when we ended up with Orgeron
And he won a national championship in convincing fashion from the first snap of the season.
What point are trying to make?
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