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re: Jimbo is the crazy crossroads of completely settling while paying the highest salary
Posted on 11/6/21 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/6/21 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Bingo.
I think we can find another Les Miles much cheaper.
I think we can find another Les Miles much cheaper.
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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Jimbo hasn't done shite in 7 years and is about to come off a 3-4 loss season just prior to being hired.
They could definitely finish 10-2
Posted on 11/6/21 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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You're using examples of guys who weren't good to show how great of a QB developer Jimbo is. Think about that.
No, I’m using the examples we have.
Look at their performances with Jimbo and without him, he got the best out of them.
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Every hire should be made with a contingency plan in place. Jimbo being hired means we won't have one (other than retirement).
No one thought we’d pony up 17 million to fire Ed, and here we are.
Again, the fixation on Monopoly money is something only a small portion of the fan base cares about. Clearly the people making these decisions don’t.
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Then why hire a guy who doesn't run a good offense and demands to run his offense as playcaller?
It shows a commitment to offense.
Let’s start from there and build on it
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a. Aranda wasn't unknown
b. The HC at LSU doesn't hire unknowns for coordinator positions unless they're Orgeron. We hire the best guys.
I was saying that Aranda was an unknown to Miles and the LSU program. Hiring someone like that is much different than Aranda hiring Grimes who he was on staff with for two seasons.
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Woodward is making the safe decision with checks he won't be paying. If he picks Jimbo, why do you think he'll hamstring Jimbo?
No I was saying Woodward has to be trusted to make the call as to whether Jimbo will evolve or not. If he believes he will and hires him, I’ll accept that and wait to see before judging the hire negatively.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 10:10 am to Tiger Voodoo
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They could definitely finish 10-2
finished 4 last year and shoulda made playoffs at TAMU.
hardly not doing shite.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
These constant takes are so dumb. If we get Jimbo, we should be tickled pink because he's a top 5 coach working a gig that most would consider unpoachable.
I'm still not really convinced that it's real because it's hard to imagine why he would leave aggy unless he really, really loves him some Baton Rouge, but he has a .766 win percentage, a national title, and has completely righted the ship at aggy after the Sumlin dumpster fire. That's a much better coach than what you can reasonably expect.
Edit: And to the people saying he'll get 3-4 losses this year, shite, if we're looking at 9 win seasons after replacing a 4 year starter QB and losing your offensive line, sign me the frick up.
I'm still not really convinced that it's real because it's hard to imagine why he would leave aggy unless he really, really loves him some Baton Rouge, but he has a .766 win percentage, a national title, and has completely righted the ship at aggy after the Sumlin dumpster fire. That's a much better coach than what you can reasonably expect.
Edit: And to the people saying he'll get 3-4 losses this year, shite, if we're looking at 9 win seasons after replacing a 4 year starter QB and losing your offensive line, sign me the frick up.
This post was edited on 11/6/21 at 11:06 am
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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Woodward is going to severely tarnish whatever reputation he has left if he hires Jimbo. Completely uninspired and pretty damn bad (borderline irrational when you add in the contract).
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Woodward is basically a politician. He isn’t going to make a risky hire if he doesn’t have to, and the boosters (IMO unwisely) have given him a blank check, which means in his mind he has to pay the highest salary, which could only ever make sense for a “proven” coach, ie one that has won a championship or at least been in the playoffs regularly.
Jimbo at a very high salary makes sense if your main goal is just not to ever be blamed for a collapse of the cash cow. In other words, he’s worried about how high the floor is more than how high the ceiling could be.
Jimbo at a very high salary makes sense if your main goal is just not to ever be blamed for a collapse of the cash cow. In other words, he’s worried about how high the floor is more than how high the ceiling could be.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:39 am to Earnest_P
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Woodward is basically a politician. He isn’t going to make a risky hire if he doesn’t have to, and the boosters (IMO unwisely) have given him a blank check, which means in his mind he has to pay the highest salary, which could only ever make sense for a “proven” coach, ie one that has won a championship or at least been in the playoffs regularly.
Jimbo at a very high salary makes sense if your main goal is just not to ever be blamed for a collapse of the cash cow. In other words, he’s worried about how high the floor is more than how high the ceiling could be.
Finally someone thinking rationally. But lets not act like Woodward wouldn't go after Riley or Dabo or even Saban. But they all very well may turn him down. Jimbo is a very smart choice versus risking the program on an up and comer. People aren't understanding how important this hire is.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:39 am to Earnest_P
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other words, he’s worried about how high the floor is more than how high the ceiling could be.
Assuming that someone like Napier, Tucker, or even Aranda has a higher ceiling than Jimbo is 100% speculation and, to be frank, asinine.
We’ve seen Jimbo’s ceiling. It’s undefeated and a Heisman QB.
None of those others are even close.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:41 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Honestly, I don’t understand your fixation on this.
Who cares? The people making these hires and contracts certainly don’t.
I'm not talking about his annual salary. It's the total contract.
If Jimbo doesn't win a natty very early, or if he's just mediocre, then we are stuck with him. We cannot move this monster of a contract. We have Jimbo until he retires (or leaves for another job, which is severely unlikely).
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:43 am to Earnest_P
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Jimbo at a very high salary makes sense if your main goal is just not to ever be blamed for a collapse of the cash cow. In other words, he’s worried about how high the floor is more than how high the ceiling could be.
Then it's a terrible choice for a program that considers itself elite. Do you want LSU to be TAMU of the past 4 years? Or, more specifically, would you consider that a success worthy of the highest-paid CFB coach?
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:45 am to Tiger Voodoo
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We’ve seen Jimbo’s ceiling. It’s undefeated and a Heisman QB.
8 years ago and he only came close to that once...the next year with the same generational QB
We just did the whole "amazing season with a generational QB" thing.
Now tell me what Jimbo has done post-Jameis? FSU slid into mediocrity-terrible (his last year was terrible he has to own it) and then he goes to TAMU and is meh. Hasn't come close to anything special and has been pretty low key bad at QB (for an alleged offensive/QB guru).
All for the low cost of highest-paid coach in CFB
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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8 years ago and he only came close to that once...the next year with the same generational QB
What are you talking about, he won 29 straight games.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:47 am to LSUminati
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People aren't understanding how important this hire is
You people are over-selling this "we're on the cliff" narrative.
We're only on the cliff because our current head coach has about an 85 IQ. We're not in bad shape with a real coaching staff. Title contender in 2022? Probably not but we can easily be a 10-2/9-3 regular season team with good, smart coaching without any talent overhaul.
We look bad because we have bad coaching. Our head coach is a legitimate idiot who can't even coach DL anymore. Our OC is bad and our DC may be worse. Bad hires by a bad coach.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:48 am to Goldrush25
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What are you talking about, he won 29 straight games.
With a generational QB
We would have run the table in 2020 with Burrow, too.
What does that mean if neither generational talent at QB is available? Well if you want to see, look at Jimbo 2015-2021. It ain't pretty and is nowhere near elite.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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We would have run the table in 2020 with Burrow, too.
We had him in 2018 and didn't run the table. Come on man. You're not being reasonable.
Who is it that you want that can deliver elite results without a generational QB?
This post was edited on 11/6/21 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:51 am to Goldrush25
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We had him in 2018 and didn't run the table.
That's b/c we were running a dinosaur offense with little offseason. E got educated on modern concepts in 2019 and he was there in 2020.
What has Jimbo done post-Jameis? Serious question.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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FSU slid into mediocrity-terrible (his last year was terrible he has to own it)
Just stop. Youre just trying to get arguments going to raise your post count
Dont shite on a guy because his wife was dragging him through the worst season of his life. She screwed with his mind, his passion, and his focus. Few men perform well in the public eye like Jimbo went through that year. He wanted out of Tallahassee, not away from his FSU commitment. You need to back off. This is a dick move.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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You people are over-selling this "we're on the cliff" narrative.
Not so much a cliff - but if we get a coach who doesn't pan out and we get further removed from 2019, then you have entered into a state of purgatory that would really require hitting big on the next person.
Posted on 11/6/21 at 11:54 am to RobbBobb
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Dont shite on a guy because his wife was dragging him through the worst season of his life. She screwed with his mind, his passion, and his focus. Few men perform well in the public eye like Jimbo went through that year. He wanted out of Tallahassee, not away from his FSU commitment. You need to back off. This is a dick move.
Yes saying that his last year at FSU was terrible is a "dick move" when it's objectively truthful. Bro, stop being so emotional.
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