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re: Jed Fisch will be a hot name
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:35 am to TheRouxGuru
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:35 am to TheRouxGuru
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This is such a stupid take. He had some success at ULL and some LSU fans wanted him at LSU
Success at the sunbelt is completely different than having a successful sec program. The lsu fans that wanted him were UL* homers. He will get fired next year and his time at Florida has been a disaster. It’s fairly obvious. They fired Mullen and were a game away from the Playoffs. Now look at them
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:12 pm to r0cky1
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They fired Mullen and were a game away from the Playoffs.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:21 pm to r0cky1
I mean you’re being pretty disingenuous with this comment. Mullen’s last year was a disaster and players were tuning the coach out. Napier hasn’t worked out so far but he was a hot name coming out of that cycle. Dude interviewed the previous year with Auburn and South Carolina. So it’s not like he was just some random schmuck.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:15 pm to r0cky1
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Success at the sunbelt is completely different than having a successful sec program. The lsu fans that wanted him were UL* homers. He will get fired next year and his time at Florida has been a disaster. It’s fairly obvious. They fired Mullen and were a game away from the Playoffs. Now look at them
Hindsight is 20/20. Napier was a hot coach coming out of ULL. Hiring any head coach save a handful is a crap shoot. Napier hasn't been able to adjust to being a college football head coach on the biggest stage. There's no shame in that.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:24 pm to ChiGator
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mean you’re being pretty disingenuous with this comment. Mullen’s last year was a disaster and players were tuning the coach out. Napier hasn’t worked out so far but he was a hot name coming out of that cycle. Dude interviewed the previous year with Auburn and South Carolina. So it’s not like he was just some random schmuck.
Disingenuous? There’s a reason lsu didn’t bother interviewing him. How many more games does he need to lose or key players to transfer out will it take to prove it. The guy is a flat out bad coach. Florida is in a much worse place due to hiring him. Look at the record for past two years
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:53 pm to CatfishJohn
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Now they all have shite on their face and we (the smart ones who knew Napier wasn't the guy) like to rub their face in it.
So, Kelly is much better and will win a championship at LSU?
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:06 pm to theCAW
One of the best recent examples of how the three year mark is the minimum you should give a coach before you start bitching.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:17 pm to r0cky1
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They fired Mullen and were a game away from the Playoffs
Mullen was 2-6 vs SEC his last season
Keep acting like you guys wouldnt riot if Kelly goes 2 SEC wins next season
Posted on 12/29/23 at 7:52 pm to TrueLefty
quote:yes without question he is much better than Napier
Kelly is much better
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:50 pm to r0cky1
I’m referring to your piece about Mullen. He lost the team. The fact he played in the SECCG the year prior is irrelevant.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:16 pm to r0cky1
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They fired Mullen and were a game away from the Playoffs. Now look at them
Mullen stopped coaching / caring / following rules after the 2018 season.
McElwain left him a decent roster and he found every possible way to piss it away in 2019. Took a better team to Jax and absolutely shite the bed.
In 2020 he got lucky with UGA suffering about eleventy billion injuries so he won in Jax and won the East. But starting with the shoe toss game, he then went 5-9 and got fired and I've never seen a program nosedive like UF did after that LSU game. Mullen completely stopped doing his job.
Dan Mullen should have been fired at the end of 2020. He embarrassed the school every week of that season. Got UF on probation and got a show cause order from the NCAA.
He was at the end of his contract and his buyout was pretty close to zero. There weren't many coaching moves that year. Kiffin was brand new at Ole Miss and could have been brought over for a steal, as no buyout would have been paid to Mullen. Instead Stricklin gave Mullen a huge raise, a new contract, an unmitigated buyout - and gave up every bit of leverage he had with Mullen.
He was the representative of the school in those negotiations and failed to do his job, intentionally. That is beyond an offense worthy of termination. He could have forced Mullen to either walk away with exactly nothing in his pocket, or take a huge pay cut if he wanted to remain the coach at UF. That extra money could have been used to bring in a new DC and get rid of Todd Grantham. Or, again, it could have been used to make getting a new coach and staff far easier.
But Stricklin committed fraud against his employer, waited a year, it cost the school tens of millions in buyouts, and coaching salaries were through the roof because there were so many moves the next year. Oh and he then agreed to fund Napier's staff of eleventy billion people.
The administrative negligence at UF is criminal, and if the university president had any balls at all he would direct an investigation to look into all of this. Stricklin, Mullen, and Mullen's agent conspired to defraud the school. All of this came on the heels of McElwain making up death threats and then obstructing a law enforcement investigation, and the school still agreed to give him like $2M in buyout money. They should have been suing him.
UF's administration is a bag of arse. Like many schools, they treat the fans and boosters as if they are limitless, bottomless ATMs. Eventually the fans will walk away and there's going to be an unholy mess.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:47 pm to Judge Smails
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Insecure is the wrong word. A small contigent of local media tried to push him as a viable candidate when Kelly was hired. This is more of a "I told you so" situation than true insecurity or dislike.
Not only the local media, but a group of LSU fans who were holding on to Saban delusions.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:01 pm to POTUS2024
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The administrative negligence at UF is criminal, and if the university president had any balls at all he would direct an investigation to look into all of this.
Much of that happened when Fuchs was president and he was one of the Foleyite supporters.
Sasse needs to step it up but he has to be Trump like and be willing to fight the Establishment: Jeremy Foley, Chip Howard, Lynda Tealer and all there cohorts in the uaa
You complain about Stricklin and I agree he is not very good but you have to understand as long as Foley has his position in the UAA. It doesn’t matter who the ad is.
Forrest asked to successfully get to the bottom of it. He needs to clean out the entire UAA and fire all of them!
Getting rid of just Napier or just stricklin it’s just putting a Band-Aid on the problem
The uaa is a rotten and corrupt group of loathsome individuals who will keep making the same type of bad coaching, and A.D. hires as long as the same people are calling the shots at the top
Sasse will have to shoot the head and cut the head off the snake if an investigation and actionable measure ls are to be taken
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:57 am to theCAW
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theCAW
I don't understand the stuff about Foley. He was superb while he was the AD and people that worked under him went to get the same job elsewhere, like becoming the AD at Georgia. UF athletics never gets to prominence without a succession of some good AD's and good university presidents, and Foley was very critical in all of that. He was around for UF being on probation, was one of the top guys when Arnsparger was brought in to clean up probation era UF, was part of the process that led to Spurrier getting hired, etc. My beef with Foley was that he didn't go HAM when it was clear that FSU players were trying to injure UF players, and that left Spurrier flapping in the breeze. Arnsparger was a tough ole dude, a WWII Marine Corps veteran. Foley could have used a little more piss & vinegar like Arnsparger, but aside from that, he did a great job at UF.
People say Foley was tight with money - but UF was doing fine on the field, and other schools that got into the arms race with facilities went in debt. Some, like Cal, went hundreds of millions in debt. That never happened at UF. UF has always remained in good fiscal shape, until just recently with some horrible decisions.
A bad thing at UF is the lack of space, which makes facility changes very costly. I think UF needs to move the bug people north toward Lake City and move IFAS south toward Ocala, and free up that whole part of campus for more robust facilities for sports, but that is very costly, of course. Foley was never willing to throw UF into a deep hole of debt and I think that was a smart decision. I remember him saying that there would come a day when UF would need to be one of the few schools in good financial position, and he was right.
I don't see Foley as a problem for current-day UF. Even if he was an influence on things, and a negative one, it's the job of Stricklin and Sasse to either wade through that or remove Foley.
It just doesn't seem reasonable to pin anything on Foley. There's an AD and a Univ President out there that are not named Foley and they have responsibilities here.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 7:13 am to dallastiger55
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Florida should call him today and just start fresh. Why drag Napier through next year?
Lower the buyout. And no coach is going through that schedule unscathed. Let Napier deal with it and get your guy in cleanly for 2025.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:12 am to TrueLefty
Kelly better? I’d say so. Beat Bama in his first year and had a Heisman Trophy winner at QB in his second year. I’d say that is measurably better than Napier. Is that not better than what Napier has accomplished for his first two seasons in your deeply knowledge opinion ?
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:47 am to POTUS2024
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McElwain left him a decent roster and he found every possible way to piss it away in 2019. Took a better team to Jax and absolutely shite the bed.
Georgia was favored in that 2019 game by almost a touchdown. Florida wasn't the better team.
Mullen is outstanding at designing an offensive gameplan and calling plays. If he was willing to take a role somewhere like Todd Monken had at Georgia (highly paid OC who didn't have to go out on recruiting trips), I think he would do really well with it. He doesn't seem to have the people skills required to be a top tier HC.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:50 am to TrueLefty
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So, Kelly is much better and will win a championship at LSU?
Not a person alive who would believe napier is even on the same level as Kelly. I really hope u get the help u need in 2024. Ur lsu obsession is beyond sad at this point
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:55 am to TrueLefty
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So, Kelly is much better and will win a championship at LSU?
I'll make a permanent ban bet with you that Kelly wins a championship at LSU.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:05 pm to CBP3110
quote:it might be
Florida when y’all fire Napier next year.
Thecaws list is
1. lane
2. Lanning
Fisch would be behind them and with our shite uaa he’s probably the best we can do
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