re: Jed Fisch will be a hot name

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It just doesn't seem reasonable to pin anything on Foley. There's an AD and a Univ President out there that are not named Foley and they have responsibilities here.

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Sasse needs to do something because Stricklin just as what foey says

Foley got lucky with billy Donovan and Machen for urban for him. Besides that he was terrible as a Ad and his penny pinching ( that you admitted is true) is killing this program that’s why we keep hiring bargin bin coaches like Napier because of his cronies Lynda tealer and Chip Howard are calling shots for him while he sits in his office at the uaa overseeing everything

Lack of support from Foley on the formal complaint and the lack of funds Spurrier request and denied by Foley pushed SOS to the NFL . frick foley frick him . He’s the reason we are in the shape we are in

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don't see Foley as a problem for current-day UF. Even if he was an influence on things, and a negative one, it's the job of Stricklin and Sasse to either wade through that or remove Foley.

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It’s up to Sasse as Stricklin is just foley and the uaas puppet

At your moms

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They fired Mullen and were a game away from the Playoffs. Now look at them

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I'm not here to defend the Napier hire but you are falsely pointing to Florida as unfairly firing Mullen. He refused to make meaningful changes to his staff and it was beyond obvious he had no interest in recruiting in the current landscape of college football. Why do you think he's still a TV talking head two year later?

Florida fricked up hiring the wrong guy. They were absolutely not wrong to part ways with Mullen.

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Sasse needs to do something because Stricklin just as what foey says

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I'm not aware of Foley's current influence so I'll take it on your word. If that's happening then I'd be disappointed in Foley. If he wants to exert influence, then he should not have retired.

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Foley got lucky with billy Donovan and Machen for urban for him.

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Outside of football, Foley made a ton of good moves. Got soccer up and going and in short order they won a natty. Kept volleyball in the top 5 for decades, tennis, gymnastics, etc. Meyer was THE name in 2004, and I think he comes to UF with or without Machen's input. It was a no-brainer for UF and Meyer. Meyer has always said that he chose UF - Zook left him a very good roster and he knew it. He just had to tweak some things to move UF to the next level. One of the first things he told the team was that he chose them, they were his players, and he wasn't looking to recruit to build a program for the future but he was going to build it right then, with those players. Guy knew what he was doing.

There are two things that have hurt us as UF fans - as we watched Spurrier for 12 years, and he made it look so easy, we thought we could somehow find someone to replicate that. You can't. There is only one Spurrier and there will never be another like him. Spurrier ran a top program and was the best play caller in football. To think Napier can do that, or anyone else, is foolish. There will never be another Spurrier. And with Meyer we never got a full appreciation that he was a force of will and exceptionally hard working. He had a process but it was willpower that put him over the top. He is very smart and understood the psychology, organizational dynamics etc, but he willed that program to the top. CFB is too complicated and running a program too complex to just have a process like Napier, and think things will fall into place.

Spurrier was once in a lifetime and I am ever so thankful to have been on campus during part of his tenure. I was very, very lucky. I was military during the first part of Spurrier's tenure, but got stationed in Jacksonville, and was able to be around, attend some games when not deployed etc. Then left the service and ended up at UF for undergrad and grad school, while Spurrier was still around. There is nothing like a big party school with a top football program. The electricity in those years was palpable and you could feel it build each game week. We give Spurrier way too little credit for his impact on UF and the SEC. Meyer was lightning in a bottle and it's a shame. If he does a better job coaching in 09 and maintains control of the team, they beat Bama, win 3 out of 4, and UF is the epicenter of CFB to this day. I truly believe that 09 SECCG was that consequential. UF has never been the same since that game. Bama prepared for that game for an entire year, while UF just partied, and it showed. Bama was super motivated because of 08, thinking they had that game. What they all forgot was that Harvin was out for that game. If Harvin plays, UF wins that game by 20 points.

Machen was a disaster as president. He is more responsible for the elitist attitude at UF than anyone else in UF's history. He is the reason UF faculty think they are the southeastern extension of Stanford. UF was a far better place when it steeped itself in the public service mission of a state university and competed with FSU annually for #1 party school in the nation. People with actual college degrees, especially grad degrees, understand that a school's ranking is meaningless. At the undergrad level, you get better instruction at a community college and in the upper division it's primarily about what you put into it - and in grad school things vary by school and you have to pick the right fit for your particular interests. The chest thumping about rankings is the dumbest of all dick measuring contests and Machen's infatuation with such things has been detrimental to the climate on campus.

While at UF I tutored athletes, I got permission to take doctoral level classes as an undergrad, and got some good exposure to a lot of things. While I was a senior I took a doctoral level class and had to tutor a couple people that had just come from the Ivy League for their masters program. They were totally lost. Others that came from places like Duke and similar schools - not good. At the same time I was around people from schools in Canada that I'd never heard of and they were sharp as hell. I got my masters from UF and by the time I'd finished I was quite taken by how badly the students were from the top schools in the nation. I expected to learn some nuggets of wisdom from these people and instead I ended up having to tutor them in the basics. From that time forward I have never invested confidence in school rankings etc. But Machen was obsessed with that stuff. It's been bad for UF. His tenure and the shift at UF that it spawned are responsible for this leadership malaise at UF. We have people that simply could not function in the real world, with no common sense, living in a bubble, and getting exposed with having to make real decisions in things like sports where academia and the real world actually collide. The athletic department is not like the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences and it can't be run by those types of people. I thought Sasse was going to address this but he doesn't have the stones or the brains, so far.

I think Foley's penny pitching was very smart. That penny pinching is why UF was able to finally add a bunch of stuff, including demolishing and relocating an entire baseball stadium - which I was not happy to see, to be honest. I remember it as Perry Field and it was a great place to watch a game and had sentimental value to me. But, times change and I understand that - and that move is not possible without Foley being tight with money all those years. If UF was $100M in debt from being in the facilities arms race, there's no way the new stand alone facility ever gets built.

UF is kind of screwed until they relocate some things as I mentioned previously. Running out of space. The VA in Gainesville has faced this problem for a long time and they recently had to build a bunch of stuff in other parts of town. There's just no space left in Gainesville to make any of this easy.

I still have vivid memories of Spurrier talking and pitching his case about FSU stuff and Foley sitting off to the side. I don't know if or how much longer Spurrier would have stayed, but I truly felt bad for him that Foley and the administration didn't have his back on those issues. FSU deliberately set out to injure his players and the school did not stand up for them as students, or for Spurrier for being the coach and the #1 advocate for his guys. Spurrier did exactly what he was supposed to do and the school let him down. A lot of UF fans felt that way and still do. Certainly the worst part of Foley's tenure, IMO.