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re: Jacksonville tv reporting Del Rio offered by USC.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:49 am to Maximus
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:49 am to Maximus
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7 years as an nfl head coach, multiple playoff appearances. Anybody on that list have anything resembling that?
Mike Sherman was a coach for like 5 or 6, had a pretty good record and more playoff appearences.
Dave Wannstedt was a NFL head coach for something like 8-10 years.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:52 am to josh336
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he's never had to call kids up and get them to come play in Sunny California with beaches and girl
Recruiting was always a concern for me when his name kept getting tossed around for the LSU job. Going to USC though it's almost a moot point.
The level of difficulty in recruiting to sunny California compared to recruiting to Baton Rouge is completely different.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:55 am to tigerguy121
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Recruiting was always a concern for me
Also, you dont consider Wannstedt a success at Pitt?
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:06 am to Maximus
you can LOL all you want. I'm not saying he couldn't do it, just that you have no way of knowing till he had the job.
I know Baton Rouge and LSU are such great places it basically recruits itself.
There are obviously coaches who are better at recruiting and doesn't rely only on the location or school.
2 months ago people were flipping out cause we kept losing all these great recruiters who were assistant coaches, and we weren't sure if they would be replaced by good recuiters. Yet this wouldn't be a problem for the HC spot?
Nothing he has done would indicate he would be good at it, nothing indicates he would be bad at it therefor a concern. A concern at LSU, not so much at USC.
I consider he had 2 good years, and the future looks very bright for his program.
I know Baton Rouge and LSU are such great places it basically recruits itself.
There are obviously coaches who are better at recruiting and doesn't rely only on the location or school.
2 months ago people were flipping out cause we kept losing all these great recruiters who were assistant coaches, and we weren't sure if they would be replaced by good recuiters. Yet this wouldn't be a problem for the HC spot?
Nothing he has done would indicate he would be good at it, nothing indicates he would be bad at it therefor a concern. A concern at LSU, not so much at USC.
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lso, you dont consider Wannstedt a success at Pitt?
I consider he had 2 good years, and the future looks very bright for his program.
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:12 am to 7 Moves
Why are LSU fans all on JDR's nuts? I see him as a bust at USC. There is a reason he was SOO far down on USC's list.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:12 am to DEANintheYAY
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There is a reason he was SOO far down on USC's list.
second is so far down?
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 11:13 am
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:17 am to usc6158
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There is a reason he was SOO far down on USC's list.
second is so far down?
I think he was further down than that.
Taking the USC job right now is like jumping on a grenade. The hammer will be dropped and will make it very hard for USC to be successful.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:23 am to usc6158
If your opinion is that Les Miles is an idiot and the team could have coached itself for three ever-loving years after the departure of Nick Saban, there is nothing I can do to help you.
But my point is to everyone who currently thinks that Del Rio should be USC's first (actually second) choice or that he should have been given more serious consideration when LSU hired Miles. There is no evidence to support this conclusion. NONE. Pete Carroll is the only exception to the rule.
That means that the burden of proof is on those to think that Del Rio, or any NFL-bred coach, will be successful as a college head coach.
But my point is to everyone who currently thinks that Del Rio should be USC's first (actually second) choice or that he should have been given more serious consideration when LSU hired Miles. There is no evidence to support this conclusion. NONE. Pete Carroll is the only exception to the rule.
That means that the burden of proof is on those to think that Del Rio, or any NFL-bred coach, will be successful as a college head coach.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:29 am to Tiger Phil
Del Rio's record as head coach of the Jaguars:
2003: 5-11
2004: 9-7
2005: 12-5 (lost in WC round)
2006: 8-8
2007: 12-6 (1-1 in the playoffs)
2008: 5-11
2009: 7-9
Totals: 58-57, including 1-2 in the playoffs.
3 winning seasons out of 7.
Clearly, this guy is one of the elite coaches in the NFL. Who wouldn't want him to head their program. I mean, gosh, if he can produce these results in the NFL, just imagine the wild success he would have in college! He's ONE GAME over .500 for his seven year career! Who among us would not kill to have that sort of record?!?!?! /sarcasm
2003: 5-11
2004: 9-7
2005: 12-5 (lost in WC round)
2006: 8-8
2007: 12-6 (1-1 in the playoffs)
2008: 5-11
2009: 7-9
Totals: 58-57, including 1-2 in the playoffs.
3 winning seasons out of 7.
Clearly, this guy is one of the elite coaches in the NFL. Who wouldn't want him to head their program. I mean, gosh, if he can produce these results in the NFL, just imagine the wild success he would have in college! He's ONE GAME over .500 for his seven year career! Who among us would not kill to have that sort of record?!?!?! /sarcasm
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:52 am to Tiger Phil
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Clearly, this guy is one of the elite coaches in the NFL. Who wouldn't want him to head their program. I mean, gosh, if he can produce these results in the NFL, just imagine the wild success he would have in college! He's ONE GAME over .500 for his seven year career! Who among us would not kill to have that sort of record?!?!?! /sarcasm
OMG like Saban? OMG HAHAHA OMG HEHE OMG
Posted on 1/12/10 at 11:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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so?
why are LSU fans so paranoid about coaches leaving?
Because LSU fans once had the hotest girlfriend in town. She left us and is now screwing out neighbor that we hate. Now we only date fat chicks that will love us forever.
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:01 pm to 7 Moves
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Skip fricking up the process
check!
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Skip was arrogant
check!
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Skip is a dumbass
check!
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:03 pm to Cash
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Now we only date fat chicks that will love us forever.
and we ask her every 5 minutes "is everything OK?"
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:04 pm to Maximus
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OMG like Saban? OMG HAHAHA OMG HEHE OMG
There's a clear difference between Saban and Del Rio. I feel bad for you that I have to point this out, but here it is.
Saban had previous success in college. Even won a National Championship.
Del Rio has zero (0) years of college coaching experience. Even as an assistant.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:06 pm to Tiger Phil
Del Rio hasn't coached college because he was 100 times the player and twice the defensive coach Saban was. He's been busy.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:12 pm to Cash
Del Rio will do fine in college. He's a proven NFL winner (Unlike Saban). College players will enjoy this.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:16 pm to Cash
if you didn't GA at Kent State, you can't keep up with the Xs and Os of the big time NCAA. Its a whole 'nother level compared to that shitty NFL.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:24 pm to MikeTiger4ever
Some of you are hilarious. If you don't think JDR will be an unquestionable success, you are kidding yourself.
He hasn't proven he can recruit. Neither have most of the elite coaches in the NFL. This has to be the worst reasoning I've ever read when questioning a potential hire of JDR.
His defensive acumen is at least the equal of Saban. He's had success at the NFL level. If you know anything about the NFL, you would know a 58-57 record is respectable.
If USC hires JDR, I'll go on record as saying USC will win more national titles under JDR than they did under Carroll, and if Skip had the opportunity to hire Del Rio and f'd it up and instead hired Miles, that's the worst decision possibly ever made by an athletic director.
He hasn't proven he can recruit. Neither have most of the elite coaches in the NFL. This has to be the worst reasoning I've ever read when questioning a potential hire of JDR.
His defensive acumen is at least the equal of Saban. He's had success at the NFL level. If you know anything about the NFL, you would know a 58-57 record is respectable.
If USC hires JDR, I'll go on record as saying USC will win more national titles under JDR than they did under Carroll, and if Skip had the opportunity to hire Del Rio and f'd it up and instead hired Miles, that's the worst decision possibly ever made by an athletic director.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:29 pm to Emilio7
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Del Rio will do fine in college. He's a proven NFL winner (Unlike Saban). College players will enjoy this.
He's 58-57 as an NFL head coach. Is that really a proven winner? He has more often had a losing record than a winning one.
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if you didn't GA at Kent State, you can't keep up with the Xs and Os of the big time NCAA. Its a whole 'nother level compared to that shitty NFL.
Oy. There's just no getting through to some people.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:35 pm to Tiger Phil
When will these dummies learn that some guy wrote in sports illustrated that John Bunting sucked so all NFL coaches are worse than college coaches??!!!!!
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