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re: If the guy is Herman and the Texas job is open after the season

Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:14 pm to
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Why would the Texas job open up after this season?



People are realizing after losing to an avg Cal team that Notre Sucks this year and that W isn't impressive
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:15 pm to
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I doubt Texas would go over 10 million a year, they surely wouldn't go over 20. They don't think they'd have to because they're Texas.

We would if that's what it took.
And yes we can easily afford that. So can you guys but it would take a serious commitment


I seriously doubt either Bama or LSU could. That is insane.

The only thing supposedly holding back Texas, infamously, is how many cliques of donors exist.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:15 pm to
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So, hypothetically, if Texas & LSU both go after Herman, do you think LSU can/will beat them out for his services?


My Tulsa coaching buddy knows Herman, he said he wants the Texas job...

TIFWIW...

My buddy is also a huge UT fan, might be somewhat he wants to happen

he said he would keep posted if hears something as we get closer to November.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:20 pm to
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If the rumors "and I believe them" that Texas was going to spend $10ml per year to get Saban then we can't compete with that.


Why not? They easily can compete with that if they wanted to

LSU athletics turns a profit every year. Zero state dollars are put into the athletic program.

They made a profit of $12 million last year alone. And that's with the highest paid asssitant coaching staff in the country

So just take $5-$6 million from the yearly profits and add it to the salary Les was making and you can compete with any school in the country as far as head coach pay goes and you are still turning a significant profit
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:24 pm to
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Which is why I said willpower matters. I doubt Texas would go over 10 million a year, they surely wouldn't go over 20


You are saying LSU is willing to pay $10mil/yr for a coach with only 2 years experience?


Just to be clear, Texas out of pure ego will never allow themselves to be outbid. Their brand is built on getting what they want and overpaying is almost a symbol of pride (see Mack Brown)
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:25 pm to
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Texas out of pure ego will never allow themselves to be outbid


Plus it would sweeten the deal even more to steal from an in state team like Houston.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:31 pm to
The X factor is the conference and who is in the way of a playoff run.

For Texas? Beat big game Bob who is on the decline, beat a TCU on the decline, beat a Baylor that got raped by the offseason.

For LSU? Beat the greatest coach of our age.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:31 pm to
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If Texas is cutthroat enough to fire Strong after this year, they are not going to frick around and will outspend LSU. It's the only school I worry about competing with. No one can beat them 1 on 1.


I disagree- Saban is not going to coach too many more years, Louisiana is richer than Texas with prospects, because they do not have to share. UT was once great- 'was' because kids today in Texas don't see Texas as the power it once was. Remember, it got so bad for UT, kids were calling them the 4th or 5th best team in Texas over the last few years. LSU would appear to have more of an 'upside' & the SEC speaks for itself...
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:31 pm to
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LSU athletics turns a profit every year. Zero state dollars are put into the athletic program.



You do realize Texas's football team does about $92mil in profit even during their shite season last year?


Compare that to say Alabama whose football revenues not profits were only about $97mil



Texas could snap their fingers and make $15-20mil extra available cash just from operations if need be.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:34 pm to
If Texas is open he's going to Texas
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
21044 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:34 pm to
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because kids today in Texas don't see Texas as the power it once was



No but like everyone else they know who Herman is and his rep for doing well. Plus they get to stay close to home.

They'll run to the Horns imo
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:37 pm to
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If Texas is open he's going to Texas


I agree, but I think the UT job isn't what it used to be

the conference is not really great anymore IMHO

the big games are not really that big from a fan standpoint

UT OU and that's about it

N is gone,
A&M gone

TCU and Baylor? geez, hard to get excited

Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
21044 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:42 pm to
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the conference is not really great anymore IMHO


Big pay, easy road to playoffs. Why turn that down??

Hey its about job security. If i can make 8 mill a year and beat up on the other teams in my conf while pulling top recruits then i dont see any cons
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:42 pm to
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but I think the UT job isn't what it used to be


Same could be said for LSU after the Miles era
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163116 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:44 pm to
LSU is still pretty loaded, for all of Les' faults recruiting has not fallen off
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:45 pm to
If the TX job is open and they want Herman, I think they get him over us. My opinion.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:46 pm to
No doubt, but I doubt most coaches want to step into a program like LSU and have to go toe to toe with Saban every year.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163116 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:52 pm to
I think you under estimate the male ego....

its also a huge misnomer that Miles is gone because of an inability to beat Nick. He was starting to get owned by Arkansas, Ole Miss, etc. and the product on the field just became very bland and resulted in apathy across the fan base.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:55 pm to
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You do realize Texas's football team does about $92mil in profit even during their shite season last year?



The same study that cited that $92 million profit for Texas also stated that LSU's profit was $58 million. I don't think it's accurate, but my point remains the same...LSU can use some of their profit money and easily match any salary offered.

No school is gonna offer a coach $20 million a year, but if Texas did based on their alleged $92 million profit, then so could LSU
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46725 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:58 pm to
Jimbo/Herman are sitting pretty right now. Jimbo is one of the highest paid coaches in the country, FSU is the top dog in the ACC, and both UF/UM are weak and aren't recruiting Florida well. Herman is a god in Houston and will either get a ton of money thrown at him from Houston or he will get a ton of money thrown at him from UT -- his dream job.

Why jump to LSU and face a fan base that has insanely high expectations -- especially when you have to face arguably the best college coach of all time.
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