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re: If SW really did whiff/get played, his "rules" are now out the window
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's all but certain SW fricked this up
But how? What should he have done differently?
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
SW whiffed, it was expected. He’s hit so many homers a strike out was just odds on end to happen. He struck out bad here and there’s no question he’s now in CYA mode. Probably a position he’s not been in during his career.
It will be interesting to see how he responds. He’s not used to getting rebuffed and left at the alter. I’m guessing he overpays for a mediocre coach. I don’t think we’re as attractive as many think. Some of the recent controversies don’t help and having an idiot like Ogre representing LSU doesn’t help either. He’s left a stench on the program.
It will be interesting to see how he responds. He’s not used to getting rebuffed and left at the alter. I’m guessing he overpays for a mediocre coach. I don’t think we’re as attractive as many think. Some of the recent controversies don’t help and having an idiot like Ogre representing LSU doesn’t help either. He’s left a stench on the program.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Look who makes the playoffs the most: Bama? offense-driven OSU? offense-driven OU? offense-driven
Offense is a large part of the game, so of course you have to be good at offense. You also have to be good at defense. The point is that the head coach does not have to be an offensive guru. Take Saban out. Dabo Sweeney has two, Orgeron has one. When you take Saban out and limit it to ten years, that’s most of the remaining championships. Proof positive that in recent years, after removing Saban from the mix, you STILL don’t have to be an offensive guru. But why are we removing Saban? The overwhelming number of coaches who have won recently are NOT offensive gurus, therefore you don’t need to be. For any reasonable person that’s as proved as an argument can be.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:01 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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But how? What should he have done differently?
Should have had an earlier deadline for Riley to preserve elite backup options. SW went all in on a 4-outer and may have went busto.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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Could be message board speculation
you think so doctor? Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:04 am to H-Town Tiger
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speaking of message board speculation all of this below is nothing but. You have no idea what has been going on behind the scenes. No idea who has and has not been contacted, what offers have or have not been made etc. Just because the word on TD or twitter is that we didn't line up your preferred candidate doesn't mean he wasn't contacted or might not be the coach. And just because the boards got hyped up that the LR deal was "done" and them Riley himself says he's not coming doesn't mean the AD is now in a "panic" and had all his eggs in one basket.
exactly
SFP is on a “hypotheticals” roll this morning
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:06 am to supatigah
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you think so doctor?
If we don't hire Aranda, either the speculation is correct or SW had less rational reasons for ignoring him.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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The issue is timing.
and by timing you mean your timing
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That means we're giving a mega deal to...Matt Campbell? Mark Stoops? Bill O'Brien? Waiting until after the ESD for Rhule? That was the plan the entire time? That's scary as shite and much scarier than this being the "panic" option.
I'm sorry but this is all nonsense. First of all I will really never understand why fans care about the "mega deal". I know is in part because we have this belief that pay should be tied to merit that the "mega" deal should only go to the coach with the "mega" results. But that's not how markets work. "Over" paying for a coach that turns out to be mediocre is irrelevant. It won't mean we can't afford something else like top pay for assistants or facilities improvements or recruiting or something. It won't mean they will stick with him through multiple bad seasons like with Hallman, it won't mean higher prices for average fans. It literally affects nothing so why worry about it?
Aslo if you have to wait for Ruhle that would be a HR hire. Yeah it would hurt this class with the ESD but that's no big deal.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:09 am to SlowFlowPro
take a deep breath, even Dellenger only knows and says what they want him to know and say
SW has had no comments, no one in power has been quoted, there is just empty content built on rumors, innuendo and conjecture.
SW has had no comments, no one in power has been quoted, there is just empty content built on rumors, innuendo and conjecture.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:09 am to H-Town Tiger
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Aslo if you have to wait for Ruhle that would be a HR hire. Yeah it would hurt this class with the ESD but that's no big deal.
Yeah, it is a big deal with the numbers problems we already have and the possibility of losing more to the portal. That doesn’t mean you don’t do, but it’s a huge risk and a big reset of the program.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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Should have had an earlier deadline for Riley to preserve elite backup options
the season for Riley literally just ended last night and even that wasn't known until what 34 seconds left
You are treating social media like the real world
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:10 am to Amadeo
If Woody hires Jimbo, then its a fricking scam and he's getting kickbacks.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:10 am to H-Town Tiger
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First of all I will really never understand why fans care about the "mega deal".
Getting out of it is the issue. You give a mega deal and you're married to that coach. This was my argument against Jimbo.
You give Campbell a mega deal and he fails by year 2, you're stuck for 4-5 more years. What then?
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. It won't mean they will stick with him through multiple bad seasons like with Hallman,
$17M was a stretch...how are you going to sell buying out a guy for $40-50M?
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:13 am to BallChamp00
It’s Stoops
TD will melt HARD
TD will melt HARD
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:14 am to supatigah
The only buzz has been Stoops and that was probably leaked from his camp
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:15 am to WicKed WayZ
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It’s Stoops
It may be Campbell (who is basically Stoops) for 150% the cost.
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TD will melt HARD
Yes
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:16 am to H-Town Tiger
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the season for Riley literally just ended last night and even that wasn't known until what 34 seconds left
You are treating social media like the real world
When the Aranda/Kififn extensions were hired, SW should have had that backup plan set in stone or a hard/signed commitment from Riley
Look I'm willing to say my read was wrong as long as it lands us Kiffin or Aranda, but I don't think I am.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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Same thing with our refusal to fire Miles when his philosophy was set
the first time you could have realistically fired Miles (for football) is 2015, in the real world you can not fire a coach because his offense doesn't please the smart hipster fans
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History has proven me very right over the past 15 years.
if it has its only because you have the easy stance of criticizing from the stands. I get you prefer new offenses and I'm 100% on board but its no guarantee of success look at Herman.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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t may be Campbell (who is basically Stoops) for 150% the cost.
This is nonsense, Campbell is 12 years younger had success at 2 schools and has been pursued by other big schools and the NFL, has anyone else even tried to hire Stoops?
This post was edited on 11/28/21 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:25 am to H-Town Tiger
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in the real world you can not fire a coach because his offense doesn't please the smart hipster fans
I mean I understand this, to an extent. The problem is that with the deal rumored to be offered, we can't frick it up or that's it. We could get out from Miles after 2006, but we won't even have that hypothetical option today with these megadeals.
Also SW was literally brought in to make this hire and do the best job in CFB. If we end up with a C/D tier guy or overpay for a guy like Campbell? That's a major failure for his ONE job that matters.
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