re: I just don’t get the hype around Riley.

So inheriting a talent-rich, blue blood program is the same as taking over downtrodden programs like FAU and Ole Miss? Lane built. Riley maintained. There's a difference.

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Riley maintained.

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Isn't that a good thing?


Kiffin had success at the juggernaut FAU.

He's in year 2 at Ole Miss. He's done well, I will admit.

He sticks around for just a couple years, then bolts. Look at his history. He has off the field history. I don't want him.

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I’m sure I’ll get called dumb etc, but honestly looking for good conversation. I just don’t get giving Riley 10-12 million a year.

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He's not worth $12m a year on merit.

You're partially paying a premium to get a coach to leave a program where's he's been to the playoffs 3 times to come to admittedly a great program, but one that has to be built up due to the neanderthal. LSU is a better job than OU but not by enough to make it a no-brainer for him.

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Get him paired up with a good DC and he could dominate.

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This is the problem right here. Everyone that loves him gives him a pass on the defense. They assume that he can get a great coordinator and that plus the instate talent will make things easy. ...But he hasn't shown that he can make a good defense. The arguments that he can't get personnel and that you can't play good defense in the offense heavy Big-12 don't hold water. His defense is in the middle of the pack (5th) of the Big 12.

Oklahoma State: 3rd (282.8 ypg)
Iowa State: 10th (307.1 ypg)
Kansas State: 29th (340.5 ypg)
Baylor: 44th (353.9 ypg)
Oklahoma: 70th (386.8 ypg)

Hell, LSU is ranked 68th (385.9 ypg) and apart from the last couple games our D has not been very good. If OSU, ISU, KSU, and Baylor can make good defenses from 3-star players, why can't Oklahoma do it with 4-star players?

Riley is a good coach, and I won't mind having him. However, paying him $12 million dollars a year over 8 years is ridiculous when he has a gaping hole in his resume. Everyone is thinking that he'll fix our one problem (quarterbacks) and everything will be great, but the flip side is a bit scary. What if he can't build a championship caliber defense and we start losing all our in state defensive talent to other schools? frick that!

And FYI, Riley's vaunted Oklahoma offense is 18th in the country (455.3 ypg). Meanwhile Dave Aranda has Baylor's offense at 19th in the country (453.6 ypg), and the players at Baylor aren't close to what you see at Oklahoma.

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10-12 million bucks f

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Why do you tards care so much about the money? I don’t care if it was 100 million a year.

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a guy that’s never won a title or is ever going to beat saban or Kirby consistently.

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The incompetent potato with arms that we just fired never lost to Kirby. Some of you should just lurk

I am aligned with you on an over inflated hype. If OU and UT were playing in the SEC this year neither school would be .500. This fan base would be revolting over a potential Riley hire. My God this LSU Team would only be a 2 loss team or 3 at worst in that pathetic conference.

So Lincoln Riley……

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Has a gaping hole in his resume: Defense!!
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Everyone that loves him gives him a pass on the Defense. They assume that he can get a great coordinator (DC)

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So if SW doesn’t hire a HC that WINS AT LEAST 95% of the games he coaches, in a SEC like conference (doesn’t exist), who’s an Offensive & Defensive GURU (also doesn’t exist) that doesn’t need to rely on hiring elite OC’s & DC’s to be successful. He simply MUST be able 2 DO IT ALL himself, Otherwise Woodward’s a friggin dumb arse & this hire is guaranteed to be a FAILURE!!!

This Shits easy - All Woody needs to do is take the 45 minute drive down I-10 & make Sean Payton an offer He CANT refuse! RIGHT?

Awe HELL never mind I forgot that Payton’s just an Offensive guy & even he needed an elite DC (Greg Williams) to win it all, so I suppose He would be a waste of time as well?

Do you see just how completely asinine this sounds when you say it all out loud where other people can hear your ramblings?

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I’m sure I’ll get called dumb etc

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Ok. You're dumb.

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Why can't you get defensive talent at Oklahoma?

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Big12 stigma + geography

In the SEC and in LA, you won't have problems. We produce DL and DBs in excess, which are the 2 areas OU has recruiting to OU.

Major defensive recruits don't want Big12 stigma, which is a big reason why the SEC has dominated recruiting even more the past few years.

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And FYI, Riley's vaunted Oklahoma offense is 18th in the country (455.3 ypg). Meanwhile Dave Aranda has Baylor's offense at 19th in the country (453.6 ypg), and the players at Baylor aren't close to what you see at Oklahoma.

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Spot on take right here. Armada is a better choice for so many reasons.