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re: Has anyone actually watched a Brady coached offense in the pros?
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:45 am to Tiger Tracker
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:45 am to Tiger Tracker
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Pretty good. He called the 3rd down and red zone calls for LSU that year and I believe they were some of the best in the country.
That is not controlling the O, that is having the opportunity to focus on the weaknesses and exploiting them when called upon. Controlling the O consists of way more and he has not shown the ability yet to do those AND exploit like he did. He may get there, but needs experience to be able to handle it all.
To respond to the other comment on Teddy- Who in the hell do you think chose him? That's right, Joe Brady was allowed to choose his QB and he brought Teddy in.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:47 am to SammyTiger
quote:And you have never seen Brady succeed with out a generational roster to coach.
I have also never watched an LSU game in the pros.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:48 am to Soft_Parade
There is a direct correlation in the NFL between success and elite QB play. Brady did not have any kind of reasonable QB play.
Nick Saban is a horrible NFL coach, GOAT at CFB.
No reason why Brady cannot have great success in CFB and fail in the NFL.
Nick Saban is a horrible NFL coach, GOAT at CFB.
No reason why Brady cannot have great success in CFB and fail in the NFL.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:49 am to 33inNC
quote:Bingo
33inNC
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:51 am to FreddieMac
quote:Why do we always do this, it is pretty obvious that Saban and Urban are the exceptions to the rule.
Nick Saban is a horrible NFL coach, GOAT at CFB.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:52 am to tigerfoot
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And you have never seen Brady succeed with out a generational roster to coach.
I have seen that generational roster average 29 points a game in regulation though.
Isn’t our whole reputation: great talent. Shitty coaching?
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:52 am to 33inNC
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To respond to the other comment on Teddy- Who in the hell do you think chose him? That's right, Joe Brady was allowed to choose his QB and he brought Teddy in.
This is certainly plausible as they were on the Saints together in 2018, but please cite anything that actually says this. Even if he did, Teddy Bridgewater isn't a starting NFL QB, he's a stop gap.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:53 am to SammyTiger
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Isn’t our whole reputation: great talent. Shitty coaching?
This is what our entire fanbase ENDLESSY bitched about, then they hold it against the one coach that actually delivered with the great talent. Just amazing.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:54 am to Soft_Parade
I was very interested in how Brady would make it as an OC with no one else’s hands on the reins.
1- he did not have the QB to run his offense.
2- Lack of talent or should I say the defenses he faces had equal to better talent.
3- No running game so shots doesn’t he field or expected. He don’t fool anyone.
4- RPO / West coast offense is not new to the NFL. He is just an average to below average OC there.
He came to LSU with a new idea, he had the balls to take the Saints West Coast Playbook and mix in The Modern RPO. This is risky unless you QB talent and playmakers. Burrow was that guys.
1- he did not have the QB to run his offense.
2- Lack of talent or should I say the defenses he faces had equal to better talent.
3- No running game so shots doesn’t he field or expected. He don’t fool anyone.
4- RPO / West coast offense is not new to the NFL. He is just an average to below average OC there.
He came to LSU with a new idea, he had the balls to take the Saints West Coast Playbook and mix in The Modern RPO. This is risky unless you QB talent and playmakers. Burrow was that guys.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:57 am to NOSA
Um, you don't follow the Panthers do you? It is common knowledge that Brady chose Teddy and had a huge hand in bringing Darnold in.
As someone else said, his failure in Carolina does not mean he cannot be an elite college OC (maybe even NFL, with experience), but his weaknesses were exposed badly.
Where I have pause is the similarities with him and Pootz (who he recommended to 0). Their offenses seemed to be VERY predictable, especially in the route trees, and neither seemed to be able to adjust to what the D is giving them or their players can execute.
As someone else said, his failure in Carolina does not mean he cannot be an elite college OC (maybe even NFL, with experience), but his weaknesses were exposed badly.
Where I have pause is the similarities with him and Pootz (who he recommended to 0). Their offenses seemed to be VERY predictable, especially in the route trees, and neither seemed to be able to adjust to what the D is giving them or their players can execute.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:58 am to 33inNC
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It is common knowledge that Brady chose Teddy and had a huge hand in bringing Darnold in.
The GM and HC seem pretty weak if that’s true.
I get Teddy but Darnold was not a move
You should leave to your OC.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:01 am to Soft_Parade
The problem is he has no star QB. Newton, Bridgewater, and now Darnold. Look at Sean Payton's offense this season without Brees. Brady is the scapegoat to buy Rhule more time.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:02 am to SammyTiger
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The GM and HC seem pretty weak if that’s true.
I get Teddy but Darnold was not a move
You should leave to your OC.
Yes, Marty Hurney was a weak arse GM and Rhule was a brand new NFL HC. Darnold was a failure from the top down, but Brady did interview for the Jets, didn't he? The biggest failure of the Panthers brass was the putrid OL they have, but Brady has proven he is not yet ready for the NFL.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:04 am to boudinman
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The problem is he has no star QB. Newton, Bridgewater, and now Darnold. Look at Sean Payton's offense this season without Brees. Brady is the scapegoat to buy Rhule more time.
If you have to have a STAR QB to be successful, then you will not be in the NFL for long. No one expects perfection year over year, but if you cannot coach a less talented team to some success, then you are in the wrong profession.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:06 am to SammyTiger
quote:No, it can only be generational one time. That is kind of the definition.
I have seen that generational roster average 29 points a game in regulation though.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:06 am to Soft_Parade
I highly doubt that BK, with all the pressure that comes with this LSU job to win, will put it in the hands of an unproven OC coming off of a terrible season where he just got fired. If you were him, would you really take that chance? Be honest.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:06 am to 33inNC
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That is not controlling the O, that is having the opportunity to focus on the weaknesses and exploiting them when called upon. Controlling the O consists of way more and he has not shown the ability yet to do those AND exploit like he did. He may get there, but needs experience to be able to handle it all
You are acting like the NFL and NCAAF are the same thing. He does have some growing to do but people are acting like because he didn't do well in the NFL he isn't ready to be an OC in college. I don't see it that way because a lot of his struggles in the NFL were out of his control. Look at this year. Carolina has a garbage o line and his QB and RB were hurt. That's an impossible situation to do well in for just about any OC in the NFL. Second, there are plenty of great college coaches who have sucked or would definitely suck in the NFL. Think about the best college HCs right now. How many of them do you think would do well or did well as a HC in the NFL? The two just aren't comparable, and two years isn't exactly a long time to build your roster in the NFL.
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To respond to the other comment on Teddy- Who in the hell do you think chose him? That's right, Joe Brady was allowed to choose his QB and he brought Teddy in.
Yeah this makes sense. You're a first time OC and you want to bring in a QB that knows your system. I am not surprised he did that at all, and let's not act like Rhule told him to blow the salary cap up and pick who he wanted. He had limited options to choose from. I really don't blame him for picking Bridgewater. It just didn't work out.
What will likely happen is Rhule will also be back in college in a year or two. Brady's firing was a sacrifice so he could keep his job another year. I don't think Brady is blameless but he's definitely not 100% to blame for Carolina's offense.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:11 am to tigerfoot
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No, it can only be generational one time. That is kind of the definition.
So the same roster a year before isnt generational.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:13 am to SammyTiger
quote:no, that is how development of a college athlete goes. Players change, they improve.
So the same roster a year before isnt generational.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:15 am to boudinman
It doesn't help that Christian McCaffrey is hurt, again.
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