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re: Greg McElroy just said LSU best job in the country
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:42 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:42 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
I think you have to view this under these 5 categories:
Fan Support
Financial Support
Recruiting
Leadership and Politics
Facilities
On a scale of 5, LSU is like this:
Fan Support - 5
Financial Support - 5
Recruiting - 5
Politics - 1
Facilities - 4
It'd be tough to find 9 other schools in the country that can match that.
Florida, USC, Bama, Ohio State, Michigan, UCLA, Texas, Florida State...those are the ones in the conversation.
Fan Support
Financial Support
Recruiting
Leadership and Politics
Facilities
On a scale of 5, LSU is like this:
Fan Support - 5
Financial Support - 5
Recruiting - 5
Politics - 1
Facilities - 4
It'd be tough to find 9 other schools in the country that can match that.
Florida, USC, Bama, Ohio State, Michigan, UCLA, Texas, Florida State...those are the ones in the conversation.
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:45 pm to blowmeauburn
i disagree with politics being a huge factor. They come into play when you aren't winning but if you are winning everyone shuts up because the cash is flowing in.
the state of Alabama and the university likely have just as much politics as we do. However, when they are winning it isn't talked about.
while Saban was here and the early miles years no one talked about the politics of the school.
when you can win you pretty much get your way.
the state of Alabama and the university likely have just as much politics as we do. However, when they are winning it isn't talked about.
while Saban was here and the early miles years no one talked about the politics of the school.
when you can win you pretty much get your way.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:47 pm to heartbreakTiger
Word. Not one politician is going to say shite about LSU if we are winning. You think any of them want to get in the way of a football team that is kicking arse? No.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:48 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
You serious? He was tanking in the NFL & wanted back in the college game. bama was the best program in need of a coach. They didn't "lure" him away. Take off with your revisionist history bullshite.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:52 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
quote:
You serious? He was tanking in the NFL
Love this narrative. He took over a dumpster fire and was a game under .500 after two seasons. The owner begged him to stay
quote:
They didn't "lure" him away
He was employed by the Miami Dolphins as the head football coach and Alabama convinced him to leave. Luring him away is exactly what they did.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:53 pm to Deactived
especially in a state where the only big game in town is LSU.
Texas slightly different since you have 2 major players, Florida two major players and so on. Politics only starts to circle when you aren't winning.
If we are taking school level politics then I still don't see it as a factor. every school will have some form and they all shut their mouth when a coach is winning and everything is running smoothly. The politics start when the coach does like les and stops winning.
we also have some sort of advantage over say Oregon or Okie state besides all the other ones we don't have one big daddy booster. we have big boosters but not just one that is insane like phil knight or T boone.
Texas slightly different since you have 2 major players, Florida two major players and so on. Politics only starts to circle when you aren't winning.
If we are taking school level politics then I still don't see it as a factor. every school will have some form and they all shut their mouth when a coach is winning and everything is running smoothly. The politics start when the coach does like les and stops winning.
we also have some sort of advantage over say Oregon or Okie state besides all the other ones we don't have one big daddy booster. we have big boosters but not just one that is insane like phil knight or T boone.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:54 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
look at their current coaches, then look in the mirror and ask if you truly believe you can make a case for them .
You can argue, credibly, that UF or UGA is the best job, period, so making the argument they're top 5 is pretty easy.
LSU is similar in that it is an easy place to recruit well and you'll have great fan support. But there are arguably as high or higher expectations, in the toughest division in football, in a cultural environment that may be pretty foreign for a lot of people.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:54 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
do you want to post the years after that or do you want me to?
2012 Texas was the year before they hired Strong, aka EXACTLY the same point in the process LSU is at.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:55 pm to TH03
quote:Let's put that in perspective. LSU is the best job in the country with a head coaching vacancy.
Greg McElroy just said LSU best job in the country
Don't think for one second he would say LSU is the best job in the country if Bama ALSO had a head coach vacancy.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:01 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Fair to say it was more nuanced than that. He was courted while he was at Miami and ultimately left, so I could see how it could be interpreted as "lured."
To your OP, I don't think it is unreasonable to think of LSU as a top 5 job right now.
To your OP, I don't think it is unreasonable to think of LSU as a top 5 job right now.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:02 pm to TH03
I'd say LSU is a 1b job, in the same conversation with about 7-10 others (FSU, UF, Michigan, ND etc.).
Texas, Alabama, Ohio State are all 1a right now, and probably USCw as well just because of the location and lack of competition in the western US in terms of brand recognition / recruiting.
Texas, Alabama, Ohio State are all 1a right now, and probably USCw as well just because of the location and lack of competition in the western US in terms of brand recognition / recruiting.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:04 pm to Deactived
quote:A lot of the old "blue blood" programs have lost their luster and you don't have to look any further than their current HCs for evidence that they aren't what they used to be.
You dont think this is a huge plus?
Doesnt LA have the most talent per capita in the entire country?
Like Lester Earl just said, if these were the best jobs and most sought after in the country, why arent the best coaches beating down the doors for the job, specifically USC?
USC got what their 5th or 6th choice the last two times?
LSU is top 5 for sure.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:12 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:There are about 15-20 schools that are great places to coach and win a national championship. About 6 of them are in the SEC. All 15-20 of those schools can and will pay nicely for a coach. History, prestige and the ability to get recruits all play a factor. So does LOCATION! Personally, "IF" I was a head coach and I had the choice of being hired at USCw, UT, Notre Dame or LSU and the money was equal, I would pick LSU. Not all coaches covet the same jobs equally.
I'd say LSU is a 1b job, in the same conversation with about 7-10 others (FSU, UF, Michigan, etc.).
Texas, Alabama, Ohio State are all 1a right now, and probably USCw as well just because of the location and lack of competition in the western US in terms of brand recognition / recruiting.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:13 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:And in his mind, that's tanking. His style of coaching wasn't effective in the NFL, and he admitted as much.
He took over a dumpster fire and was a game under .500 after two seasons.
Again, he explicitly wanted back in the college game. There isn't anything about alabama that made him leave the league. You could have been anybody. Like I said, save the revisionist history. You're not fooling anyone but yourself.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:13 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
The pull of the SEC is obviously huge, but I'm sure there are coaches who do not want any part of that gauntlet.
Sound like the kind of losers you don't want coaching your football team.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:14 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
in a cultural environment that may be pretty foreign for a lot of people.
Yes, but once they understand what "laissez les bons temps rouler" means, the environment isn't so foreign anymore.
People are talking about top coaching destinations like it's some kind of strict graduated system. It's not, some place are better fits for some people than others.
Can you imagine Steve Spurrier coaching at Michigan? Joe Pa at USC? Pete Carroll at Alabama? Lloyd Carr at Texas?
There are the top ten schools, and then there's who's the best fit where.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:14 pm to Oddibe
quote:someone on this list doesn't share characteristics with the other 3 and its not the blue bloodedness of the school.
USCw, UT, Notre Dame or LSU
Im not sure ND is even top 15 job at this point
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:16 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Saban made these clowns delusional.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:17 pm to TT9
McElroy said it, Cheif
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:19 pm to heartbreakTiger
quote:When history and prestige is factored into "top jobs in the country" they absolutely belong. They have certainly lost their national recruiting ability with cable TV.
m not sure ND is even top 15 job at this point
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