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re: Greg McElroy just said LSU best job in the country
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:19 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:19 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Notre Dame isn't an elite job. This isn't the 70s
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:19 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Anyone that would say that is a homer
TIL McElroy is an LSU homer
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:19 pm to Lester Earl
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most other schools when you fire a coach, you start from scratch. USC, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, even Texas. They all started fresh or had to start fresh.
What? When Mack Brown left Texas they were still the top brand in the state (and the nation if judged by tshirt sales), and the most profitable program in the nation.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:20 pm to releauxded2469
also if whoever we hire wins a national title he will be the highest paid coach in the country.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:20 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Greg McElroy is an LSU homer? 
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:20 pm to Lester Earl
USC in the modern era was great because of Pete Carroll. That's pretty much it.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:21 pm to cardboardboxer
yea but they had extreme rot inside the program. I fear that could be an issue with us since Les like Mack doesn't hold anyone accountable for their actions.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:22 pm to Bunk Moreland
USC does get first pick when good. they have the ability to be an elite job. As of now their admin is a complete and utter wreck. I don't know much about their boosters and support club/whatever their version of the TAF is but it must not be that strong if Clay Helton was hired as their coach.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:23 pm to heartbreakTiger
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yea but they had extreme rot inside the program
The moment they fired Mack Brown few of them would admit that. It was all "we have talent, a new coach can come in here and dominate from the start."
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I fear that could be an issue with us since Les like Mack doesn't hold anyone accountable for their actions.
I applaud you for being better than them.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:24 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Are you 70?
Notre Shame?
Michigan?
Not better jobs.
Notre Shame?
Michigan?
Not better jobs.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:24 pm to Deactived
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Doesnt LA have the most talent per capita in the entire country?
Depends on our definition, but if it's NFL players then no, the state of Alabama leads that category
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You dont think this is a huge plus?
Of course it's a plus. I think it's a little naive to think that LSU doesn't have competition in Louisiana though just because they don't share the borders with another large school. You can't talk about the talent in Louisiana and then scoff at the idea of Florida being a better job. You have 3 schools in Florida that share a state with 300 division 1 athletes every year. The "State of Miami" alone has proven they can utterly dominate college football if they lock down their "border"
USC is the big game in town in Southern California, another area that produces more players than Louisiana. Texas and A&M get the pick of the litter in Texas most years- again, that's more players to pick from than LSU despite splitting the crop amongst each other. Georgia shares a state with a triple option offense with high academic standards, to act like tech is a threat there is not an opinion based in reality. I'm just trying to makes heads or tails of this as the reasoning for considering LSU a top 5 job when there are countless programs that have access to more recruits in state each year, even if they are splitting the pot.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:25 pm to cardboardboxer
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What? When Mack Brown left Texas they were still the top brand in the state (and the nation if judged by tshirt sales), and the most profitable program in the nation.
they went from being in the national title game in 2009 to
5-7 missing a bowl game
8-5 holiday bowl
9-4 alamo bowl
8-5 alamo bowl
to hiring charlie strong who is making $5mil annually
6-7 no bowl
5-7 no bowl
i dont give a shite about their brand. Im talking about their football program. You dont think that hurts recruiting? Look at the results. They lost all momentum they had in the 2000s and are still struggling to repair that
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:29 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Michigan and notre dame are not better jobs. Michigan struck out time after time not long ago and nobody wanted it.
Notre Dame has its own set of issues with academics
LSU when ALL factors are considered is easily a top 5 job for college football.
I know it hurts you to think that gump but frick off
Notre Dame has its own set of issues with academics
LSU when ALL factors are considered is easily a top 5 job for college football.
I know it hurts you to think that gump but frick off
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:30 pm to cardboardboxer
its pretty common. I do think we have more talent than them. I have suspected for a long time that the recruiting sites have some bias. It would be natural for them to overrate texas talent as if a player is interested in texas pump him up because it sells to the big fan base of texas.
I also think that mack got lazy on the recruiting and of course the country club level coaching where kids are told they are great and then never held accountable for when they suck.
I think we see this happen depending on the hire, a good bit of transfers in the spring. some kids les loved will find the new coach doesn't love them. Some wont fit scheme others wont handle the new in your face coach if we go that route.
I think its 50/50 on if we keep it rolling without even the smallest hitch. If we get a great hire we might still end up 6-6 much like bama did because of the rot caused by keeping les a year and 4 games too long. We might also over come it or maybe we haven't rotted as bad as we could have.
I would be shocked if anyone other than Julukes was kept from our offensive staff, our D staff could possibly remain I think the D staff is all excellent top of the line and they clearly hold the D accountable for how it plays.
I am still very aware though of the possibility that Les Miles like Mack ended up rotting us to the core and we will have to gut and then rebound.
I also think that mack got lazy on the recruiting and of course the country club level coaching where kids are told they are great and then never held accountable for when they suck.
I think we see this happen depending on the hire, a good bit of transfers in the spring. some kids les loved will find the new coach doesn't love them. Some wont fit scheme others wont handle the new in your face coach if we go that route.
I think its 50/50 on if we keep it rolling without even the smallest hitch. If we get a great hire we might still end up 6-6 much like bama did because of the rot caused by keeping les a year and 4 games too long. We might also over come it or maybe we haven't rotted as bad as we could have.
I would be shocked if anyone other than Julukes was kept from our offensive staff, our D staff could possibly remain I think the D staff is all excellent top of the line and they clearly hold the D accountable for how it plays.
I am still very aware though of the possibility that Les Miles like Mack ended up rotting us to the core and we will have to gut and then rebound.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:31 pm to WHATDOINO
What's your top 5?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:32 pm to Lester Earl
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You dont think that hurts recruiting? Look at the results.
I did.
In 2012 Texas signed the #2 recruiting class in the country. Recruiting dropoff not found.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:34 pm to Deactived
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They lured Saban away? Not really.
How do you think this went down? Do you think he was pushed out at Miami?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:35 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Greg McElroy is wrong. I think that was proven when LSU had a stocked cupboard and hired an average at the time big 12 coach This post was edi
Your options were Nutt, Miles, and Petrino.
Miles was the best of the three. He won a title, and left with a better win percentage than any LSU coach. I'd call t a successful hire.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:36 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I will name the top at this time in no particular order
Alabama
USCw
Texas
Ohio St
LSU
All have advantages and disadvantages but are easily set up for the right coach to win.
Lsu is in that category because of all the factors that have been mentioned over and over.
You can win here as easy as anywhere in the country.
Check the quotes from your head coach. He feels the same way
Alabama
USCw
Texas
Ohio St
LSU
All have advantages and disadvantages but are easily set up for the right coach to win.
Lsu is in that category because of all the factors that have been mentioned over and over.
You can win here as easy as anywhere in the country.
Check the quotes from your head coach. He feels the same way
Posted on 9/26/16 at 2:37 pm to cardboardboxer
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In 2012 Texas signed the #2 recruiting class in the country. Recruiting dropoff not found.
do you want to post the years after that or do you want me to?
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