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re: Fuente: "Pass to score and run to win"....what does that mean?
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:55 am to misey94
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:55 am to misey94
No one said you can't pass to set up the run. Running to win means controlling the LOS and the clock, NOT, to run it when securing the victory.
Go watch the sugar bowl. Petrino tried to establish the run game. If not for their receivers using butter on their hands, they walk away with a win.
Go watch the sugar bowl. Petrino tried to establish the run game. If not for their receivers using butter on their hands, they walk away with a win.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 9:57 am
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:07 am to tigerbait98
Look at the national title game...
Auburn... 254 yards rushing.
Oregon... 75 yards rushing.
Auburn controlled the pace of the game with their running and short passing game. This kept the Oregon offense from wearing out the Auburn D like they did to everyone else this year.
Auburn... 254 yards rushing.
Oregon... 75 yards rushing.
Auburn controlled the pace of the game with their running and short passing game. This kept the Oregon offense from wearing out the Auburn D like they did to everyone else this year.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:09 am to Willie Stroker
Pass to score refers to setting up the opposing D for play action, Running to win refers to controlling the game once you have a lead.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:23 am to ccomeaux
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Pass to score refers to setting up the opposing D for play action, Running to win refers to controlling the game once you have a lead.
Precisely
Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:08 am to tigerbait98
Wrong almost every time they ran it was off a pass look. 80% of the running plays they ran were draws. Draws works bc of the fear of the pass.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:17 am to 5Alive
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Wrong almost every time they ran it was off a pass look
Whatever noob. I think anyone with a reasonable grasp of football understands this concept, except you.
Believe what you wish. You "score" with the "pass" because the ball was run successfully.
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80% of the running plays they ran were draws.
link?
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Draws works bc of the fear of the pass.
Of course
how does scoring with the pass and winning with the run work?
Here's a hint: you score with the pass because of the play action caused by a solid running game (running to win)
Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:20 am to tigerbait98
“We always say it’s a passing league, but here’s the real deal,” ESPN analyst and former NFL coach Herm Edwards said. “You pass to score, and you run to win.
“You’ve got to run the ball, especially at this time of year. Teams that can do that generally show up in the playoffs.”
“You’ve got to run the ball, especially at this time of year. Teams that can do that generally show up in the playoffs.”
Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:22 am to blizzle
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“We always say it’s a passing league, but here’s the real deal,” ESPN analyst and former NFL coach Herm Edwards said. “You pass to score, and you run to win.
“You’ve got to run the ball, especially at this time of year. Teams that can do that generally show up in the playoffs.”
Need anything more be said than this?
Spot on.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:25 am to 5Alive
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that bitch Petrino
very funnyPosted on 1/14/11 at 11:28 am to Willie Stroker
A good passing game is essential for scoring a lot of points, but it alone is insufficient to win games consistently.
That's the correct answer. Rack em.
That's the correct answer. Rack em.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:36 am to Willie Stroker
you play to win the game!
hello?!!
hello?!!
Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:37 am to HeadChange
they are who we thought they were?????
no?
no?
Posted on 1/14/11 at 12:38 pm to tigerbait98
Ur off topic here..I prefer a Mark Richt type of offense personally...Fuente and TCU are a pass to set up the run team. They spread u out so far that those running lanes open up. TCU can't line up and pound anybody with the run consistently, in the end they control the ball at the end of games and cruise to victory.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 12:51 pm to 5Alive
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I prefer a Mark Richt type of offense personally
I'm in the same boat.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 12:56 pm to Ninja Looter
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what does that mean
Apparently it meant, "He Les look at me, I want to interview, I will devise whatever type game plan you set the tone for, for the right price".
Posted on 1/14/11 at 12:59 pm to 5Alive
delarge05
ok, I'll try this one more time before i give up hope on you.
An example of a pass to open up the run team would be more like what Mike Leach did at TT.
He used the short and intermediate passing game to change the pace with the run/draw. TCU, and Fuente, spread the field but their identity is run to set up the pass. This doesnt meant that they wont occasionally pass several times but the focal point of it all is the running game, even if it's used less than other schools. You have to have the ability to run regularly to setup the pass to score. Period.
Go back and look at what Herm Edwards said about it
ok, I'll try this one more time before i give up hope on you.
An example of a pass to open up the run team would be more like what Mike Leach did at TT.
He used the short and intermediate passing game to change the pace with the run/draw. TCU, and Fuente, spread the field but their identity is run to set up the pass. This doesnt meant that they wont occasionally pass several times but the focal point of it all is the running game, even if it's used less than other schools. You have to have the ability to run regularly to setup the pass to score. Period.
Go back and look at what Herm Edwards said about it
Posted on 1/14/11 at 1:05 pm to tigerbait98
We are talking about Fuente and TCU. Not Herm Edwards assessment of the NFL. If TCU was that great with the run then they would be compared to Oregon and Auburn offensive philosophy wise. Those two are run first teams.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 1:09 pm to 5Alive
quote:need to check your facts dude
If TCU was that great with the run then they would be compared to Oregon and Auburn offensive philosophy wise. Those two are run first teams.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 1:14 pm to Books
Totally agree with the run to set up the pass philosophy. The stats seem to bear this out with TCU averaging more yards per game on the ground than in the air in 2010 and 41 touchdowns rushing to 29 passing--600 rushing attempts to roughly 331 passing attempts.
On paper this appears to be a ball control spread with the ability to pass set up by and primarily dependant on a dominant run game.
On paper this appears to be a ball control spread with the ability to pass set up by and primarily dependant on a dominant run game.
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