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re: Fox Sports Crapping on Miles Again
Posted on 12/13/07 at 8:55 am to DetroitTiger
Posted on 12/13/07 at 8:55 am to DetroitTiger
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because Miles, as he himself stated, loves Michigan and always will be a Michigan Man.
Exactly-
Why can't people seem to understand and accept this...
I think Miles has shown what kind of man he is by being open and honest about this situation.
I respect the way he hasn't tried to hide or run from his love of his alma mater.
I'm just happy he's committed to loving UM from afar...and remaining the HC at LSU.
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 9:03 am to MichiganMan
Doesn't Miles know the media has repealed the First Amendment? How dare he antagonize these people by exercising his First Amendment Rights to talk to people from Michigan? Doesn't he understand that he can be held in contempt of the media?
Doesn't Miles understand the media will throw everything including the proverbial kitchen sink at him for daring to act like an ordinary American citizen? Does Miles think he can do simple honest things like talking to people on the phone from Michigan and pretend the sports media will not try to turn that into something dirty and dishonest. How stupid can the man be?
The creepy crawlers of the sports media are now attacking Miles with their usual bag of tricks, simply because they can. Their bag of tricks have included rumors, half truths, falsehoods, unsubstantiated bogus charges, and now blatant lies in anonymous internet blogs. Stay tuned to the Rocky Horror Picture Show of the sports world--ESPN!
Doesn't Miles understand the media will throw everything including the proverbial kitchen sink at him for daring to act like an ordinary American citizen? Does Miles think he can do simple honest things like talking to people on the phone from Michigan and pretend the sports media will not try to turn that into something dirty and dishonest. How stupid can the man be?
The creepy crawlers of the sports media are now attacking Miles with their usual bag of tricks, simply because they can. Their bag of tricks have included rumors, half truths, falsehoods, unsubstantiated bogus charges, and now blatant lies in anonymous internet blogs. Stay tuned to the Rocky Horror Picture Show of the sports world--ESPN!
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 9:26 am to MichiganMan
I can see where this guy is coming from.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 9:29 am to Bad Cat
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It obvious to anyone that spends anytime on this board that you have some ax to grind with LES and nothing he does is good enough.
No ax to grind. But you see where LM is a Michigan Man, I'm an LSU guy!
And as for taking my own advice, NEVER!
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BTW Moots, I'm not advocating LM leaving. But, should he leave I hope he does it with BCS Championship Ring!
This post was edited on 12/13/07 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/13/07 at 9:33 am to Bad Cat
wake up.
Miles has NO BUSINESS talking to Michigan if he is not interested in going there. He has a national championship game coming up.This team needs NO distractions. none.
Yet he talks to them. That was just plain stupid. I don't buy the part about him giving them coaching advice when they wouldn't even return his phone calls a week earlier. give me a break.
He needs to have NO CONTACT with them at all until they hire a coach.
Miles has NO BUSINESS talking to Michigan if he is not interested in going there. He has a national championship game coming up.This team needs NO distractions. none.
Yet he talks to them. That was just plain stupid. I don't buy the part about him giving them coaching advice when they wouldn't even return his phone calls a week earlier. give me a break.
He needs to have NO CONTACT with them at all until they hire a coach.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 9:44 am to prplhze2000
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Miles has NO BUSINESS talking to Michigan if he is not interested in going there...........
He needs to have NO CONTACT with them at all until they hire a coach........
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You sound like a jealous lover. Miles can talk to whoever he wants to but relax - its over. He's obvioulsy staying at LSU.
Miles has NO BUSINESS talking to Michigan if he is not interested in going there...........
He needs to have NO CONTACT with them at all until they hire a coach........
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You sound like a jealous lover. Miles can talk to whoever he wants to but relax - its over. He's obvioulsy staying at LSU.
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 9:55 am to DetroitTiger
in ethics you have this principle of doing things to "avoid the appearance of impropriety".
Posted on 12/13/07 at 10:33 am to specs1
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BTW Moots, I'm not advocating LM leaving. But, should he leave I hope he does it with BCS Championship Ring!
(emphasis added)
REALLY?
Your Post from December 1st seemed to be "advocating" it!
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 10:34 am to MichiganMan
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:21 am to TigerTailsSoup
Hire Jerry Moore and leave us alone.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:22 am to TigerTailsSoup
Hire Jerry Moore and leave us alone.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 1:14 pm to specs1
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How is it running down Miles to say he should not talk to Mich and should just let the story die?
So what happens when he "doesn't talk to Michigan" and the story is, "Miles avoiding suspicion by pretending not to talk to Michigan!"
You have a coach that is a former player and assistant at Michigan, who mysteriously is not answering calls from his own alma mater. Do you really think the media would not spin that into a suspicious smoke screen? "Of course he would answer that call if he had nothing to hide!" they would write. "If he wasn't really interested, there'd be no reason not to talk to them and tell them so" they would say.
Answering or not answering that phone would not have killed this story. Nothing will, because the media does not want it to die.
All that can be said now is that when Les Miles is not the Head Coach at Michigan next year, the entire sports media world will have been proven irrefutably to be absolute liars, and not one word ever printed or spoken by any of them again should be accorded any more credibility than Joseph Goebbels.
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 2:24 pm to King Joey
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All that can be said now is that when Les Miles is not the Head Coach at Michigan next year, the entire sports media world will have been proven irrefutably to be absolute liars, and not one word ever printed or spoken by any of them again should be accorded any more credibility than Joseph Goebbels.
Yes, you're absolutely right....
because they'll never be held accountable!
They'll try to ruin a man and his reputation all for a story...and when they're wrong. (i.e. Herbstreit) they'll hide behind some BS excuse.
Something like, "well, it was a done deal, but it fell through..."
Sickening...Truly Sickening...
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 2:27 pm to tigerinridgeland
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I still don't understand why folks don't use a little bit of common sense, including this idiot blogger. It works wonders. Miles' comments about helping Michigan were nothing more than courtesy, but a lot of folks somehow think that Michigan has signed Miles to some kind of full time consulting contract. Gee, how hard is it to figure this out? The extent of Miles' "help" is one (count 'em) telephone conversation. Let it go.
I'm glad someone else gets it...
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 2:36 pm to Golfer
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I'm glad someone else gets it...
Add me to the list...
However, on the Rant...I feel like we're in the minority at times!
It's like the old saying..."common sense really isn't that common"!
Sad but true!
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 6:23 pm to prplhze2000
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in ethics you have this principle of doing things to "avoid the appearance of impropriety".
There was no appearance of impropriety. To say so is to stretch the bounds of the appearance of impropriety beyond anything that is recognizable in the field of ethics.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 7:13 pm to Golfer
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I still don't understand why folks don't use a little bit of common sense, including this idiot blogger. It works wonders. Miles' comments about helping Michigan were nothing more than courtesy, but a lot of folks somehow think that Michigan has signed Miles to some kind of full time consulting contract. Gee, how hard is it to figure this out? The extent of Miles' "help" is one (count 'em) telephone conversation. Let it go.
I appreciate your comments, but unless you are Les Miles, his wife or kids (who probably wouldn't be told) you don't know the extent of Miles' "help" on that two hour phone call.
The only reason the first phone call came out was because of the Michigan press. Even Skip didn't know about it until days later. He came across looking like a fool - Michigan talks to Miles and two days later Skip is saying he would expect Michigan to make another request because of the extension put in place. Think Skip was happy about that?
Was there one or more subsequent phone calls that flew under the press radar? Was Bass on the Friday conference call?
If Miles is truly staying at LSU, it was incredibly poor judgement on his part to talk to Michigan at this point in time. It's obvious there is a leak the size of Niagra Falls in the Michigan AD's office and everything is getting out. Surely no one with a modicum of intelligence believes that BS floated about helping on the coaching search.
I, for one, hope he stays. He's not Knute Rockne, but I think he's a good man and a good coach who came into a no win situation following Saban and has done damn fine and he cares. He has not let his ego run amok and has brought in excellent coordinators that, at times, probably show him up.
That being said, nothing would surprise me. I just hope someone in that athletic complex is making contingency plans.
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 7:21 pm to MichiganMan
any one of us can sign up for a blog on fox's community dohicky and be linked too...weee!
Posted on 12/13/07 at 9:28 pm to BTigerFan
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I appreciate your comments, but unless you are Les Miles, his wife or kids (who probably wouldn't be told) you don't know the extent of Miles' "help" on that two hour phone call.
Just how much "help" could Miles be to Michigan in a single 2 hour telephone call, and the likelihood is that much of the conversation was about other matters (perhaps Miles' interest in the vacancy or Michigan's lack of interest in Miles, etc.)
Of course the conversation was not intitially made to obtain Miles' help. But it may well have ended up there. But just because Miles chose not to disclose the entirety of what was discussed doesn't mean that the whole conversation was about Miles' help. There was no particular reason to make full disclosure that could be embarassing to either Miles or his alma mater.
As far as Skip, it may not have been apparent to Miles or Michigan that the permission to talk was so time limited as it was in Skip's understanding. It may well be that neither Miles or Michigan understood additional permission needed to be given for the conversation. It certainly wasn't apparent from the reports that Skip gave permission that it was so limited. I doubt seriously Miles would have deliberately gone behind Skip's back. That is even more apparent given that Miles has said unequivocably that he will be the coach at LSU next season. (And no, its not like the Oklahoma State situation, because the OSU had a policy against giving permission to talk to any OSU coach at anytime).
Folks have been all to ready to criticize and condemn without all the facts. Maybe Miles should have anticipated that, but the real blame belongs to the overeager and irresponsible sports journalists and hot-headed fans who don't step back and apply some sense of reason to the situation.
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