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Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1164 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:16 pm to
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TheCaterpillar


Do you see that same guy today since he took over?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:21 pm to
He is saying the same shite in the media yeah.

He has been handed coordinators, players, and a system already in place. And we've played nobody yet.

All of this "learned from Pete Carroll and jimmy Johnson" rhetoric is exactly what had Ole Miss fans so excited.
Posted by salford227
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Dec 2005
1160 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:40 pm to
So, he's much better at handling coordinators, coaches, players etc than Miles is.

By the way, who is the last team that wanted Ensminger as OC? Pretty sure a washed up OC has taken the LSU offense to a new level.

There are 119 other head coaches who know Aranda is a great DC. Not to mention that a screwed up special teams has changed light years over 3 games.

I'm not saying O is the answer, but it's evident his coaching has changed. The next 4 weeks will prove how much.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56926 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:45 pm to
Lol at keeping ensminger.


LSU is turning into Last Shot University for coaches
Posted by salford227
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Dec 2005
1160 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:10 pm to
I did not say keep Ensminger as OC. I responded about having success with a staff put together for him.

You laugh at Ensminger yet won't give them credit for there success.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:12 pm to
Motivation from a "change of pace coach" is usually not sustainable.

There are things that go into managing a program that aren't in the spotlight, but are hugely important.

He has proven he can't handle that.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:24 pm to
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0-8 in the SEC was first time since 1982 also.
yeah but its not like there weren't other awful seasons there. the problems there went well beyond orgeron.

1982: 0-6
1984: 1-5
1987: 1-5
1991: 1-6
2010: 1-7
2011: 0-8
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95096 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

LSU is turning into Last Shot University for coaches


Nothing has even happened, so no it's not, Capt. Panic
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 10:45 pm to
And he was worse than all of them.

And got worse each year he was there.

Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/2/16 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

And got worse each year he was there.
no he didnt.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
4023 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:11 am to
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The slide under Miles was allowed to go on for too long. That's why people are now thinking that Orgeron looks like a reasonable candidate.


IMO
If LSU would have gotten rid of Miles when "they" should have, then EO is never CEO.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:34 am to
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yeah but its not like there weren't other awful seasons there. the problems there went well beyond orgeron.



You cherry pick things without context. Again, if Ole Miss's history precluding O from having a good run there (hint: it didn't), then why doesn't O's poor run there preclude him from getting other HC jobs (hint: it has).

Again, in the last 20 years, Ole Miss has had 7 losing seasons. O had three of them. That's not alarming to you?
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:57 am to
Yes I would greatly rather O over Mora

And O is down the line on my list even if LSU wins out

I worry long term elite success

Mora Jr would be so meh here and is odd
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:28 am to
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If he ultimately does not end up with the job, it is our belief, based on information from several sources, that there are other candidates beyond the aforementioned list that LSU is considering.

What did Alabama do when they got Nick Saban?

They looked around, saw the best college coach they could find and they did what it took to get him to come Alabama.

If you're LSU and you're looking around for the best college football coach in the country... the only name that you can throw out there is Chip Kelly.

LSU needs to do whatever they can to get him to LSU. He'll get Saban-esque results with LSU's talent.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:26 am to
quote:

change the program for the better, it'll be hard for me to get into LSU games like I used to



good riddance. frick we have a insane fan base
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 8:33 am to
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f you're LSU and you're looking around for the best college football coach in the country... the only name that you can throw out there is Chip Kelly.

LSU needs to do whatever they can to get him to LSU. He'll get Saban-esque results with LSU's talent.




LSU would no longer have talent with that dude. We would have undersized linemen that would get pushed around by other SEC schools. Hiring Kelly would end up being a disaster. Once he got shite canned we would have to totally rebuild our roster ala Rodriguez/Michigan
Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:03 am to
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“a young, offensive-minded candidate.”


Jeff Brohm or PJ Fleck?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:25 am to
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LSU would no longer have talent with that dude. We would have undersized linemen that would get pushed around by other SEC schools. Hiring Kelly would end up being a disaster. Once he got shite canned we would have to totally rebuild our roster ala Rodriguez/Michigan




I tend to disagree, because of the changes he's made to his system in the pros. I think he understands the value of the big boys and a power running game more now.

Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7351 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:29 am to
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I tend to disagree, because of the changes he's made to his system in the pros. I think he understands the value of the big boys and a power running game more now.


The interview process with Kelley would be more important with him than anyone if it got that far.
Posted by Mikethegreat
Member since Sep 2016
375 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:05 am to
using far to much logic
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