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re: Early Auburn OC candidates

Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:35 pm to
The talent also drizzled down in that time...

With the recruiters we have now, he'd be a solid hire, I think.
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Our offense was progressively worse every year from 2004 to 2007.


Talent was also progessively worse from 2004-2007...
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:50 pm to
I want somebody who can develop QB's. I know Borges didn't have the greatest of talent to work with, but he still never impressed me in that regard.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Greg Davis former Texas OC


Do it.


DO IT
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3666 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

I want somebody who can develop QB's. I know Borges didn't have the greatest of talent to work with, but he still never impressed me in that regard.


Jason Campbell owes his career to Borges.
Posted by Survivor 2010
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Aubie83


quote:

Talent was also progessively worse from 2004-2007...


Seriously, this is not a flame. Is the talent level today that much better than 2004-2007? I ask because I don't keep up with Auburn recruiting.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3666 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:59 pm to
quote:


Seriously, this is not a flame. Is the talent level today that much better than 2004-2007?


2004-2005 no way
2006 - maybe
2007 - probably
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:59 pm to
As far as our past two classes are concerned, it is night and day.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53362 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

I want somebody who can develop QB's. I know Borges didn't have the greatest of talent to work with, but he still never impressed me in that regard.


Jason Campbell was a 1st rounder because of Borges.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54881 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Blake Anderson OC Southern Miss
I'm ok with this.

quote:

Al Borges OC Michigan
I think I would be ok with this as well.

quote:

Greg Davis former Texas OC
Not sure I like this, but I don't know a ton about him.

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Jason Phillips Houston OC
No clue.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:03 pm to
And then Cox got progressively worse the longer he was with Borges. Campbell was good, but I think he benefitted more from just being on a damn good team and not have to do too much.
Posted by Survivor 2010
Member since Dec 2007
2713 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:04 pm to
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GoCrazyAuburn


Who are the top offensive recruits in the past two classes that offer you excitement? Dyer (Soph), obviously, is extremely talented. Onterio McCalebb (Jr.) is high energy.

I like Lutzenkirchen (jr).
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:07 pm to
Tre Mason (fr), Quan Bray (fr), Sammie Coates (fr), Jaylon Denson (fr), Trovon Reed (rfr or rso, can't remember), Greg Robinson (fr), Christian Westerman (fr), Kiehl Frazier just to name a few.
This post was edited on 12/15/11 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3666 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

As far as our past two classes are concerned, it is night and day.


Our 2010 class has taken some hits. Offensive players no longer with the team:

possibly Dyer 5*
Coleman 4*
Goodwin 4*
Kitchens 4*
Gayden 4*
Christian 3*
Mosley 3*
Richardson 3* (never qualified)
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:09 pm to
Shon Coleman is not on the team anymore?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Coleman 4*
Goodwin 4*
Kitchens 4*



These really hurt. Hopefully Shon will be able to make a recover, but i doubt it.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41868 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:09 pm to
Its just not that likely he will be able to play again.
Posted by Survivor 2010
Member since Dec 2007
2713 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:10 pm to
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Tre Mason (fr), Quan Bray (fr), Sammie Coates (fr), Jaylon Denson (fr), Trovon Reed (rfr or rso, can't remember), Greg Robinson (fr), Christian Westerman (fr), Kiehl Frazier just to name a few.


I realize he is very young but Kiehl Frazier hasn't impressed me yet.....notice I said yet, leaving the door open to change.

On the others, do you feel these are close to superstar players or do you put them on the list because they were highly ranked in recruiting?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:10 pm to
Thats nothing new. Most ppl dont come back from cancer to play football.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3666 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 3:13 pm to
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I realize he is very young but Kiehl Frazier hasn't impressed me yet.....notice I said yet, leaving the door open to change.

On the others, do you feel these are close to superstar players or do you put them on the list because they were highly ranked in recruiting?


Honestly, I don't think anybody really knows about our young offensive guys. Some were redshirted and the ones who played couldn't get the ball for lack of adequate OL and QB play.
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