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Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:27 pm
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:27 pm
that no changes will be made/announced on defensive staff until after the bowl game?
Posted by CTexTiger
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
4988 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:28 pm to
No.
Posted by MFV
Member since Oct 2008
911 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:30 pm to
Zero percent chance we win the bowl game without a new dc. The players need a spark and reason to be excited even if the new dc wouldn't be able to imlement his scheme.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4968 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:34 pm to
I agree, and hope that it is not settled. We need to get moving.

I keep reading this Guilbeau stuff saying prospective coordinators don't want to discuss jobs that aren't open, and, more ominously, nobody's been called back off the recruiting trail and no interviews/meetings with current staff have been scheduled.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

that no changes will be made/announced on defensive staff until after the bowl game?


Les himself said changes would be made prior to the bowl game.

quote:

"I'm not going to address other issues at this point," Miles said. "I'm just going to operate from the premise that there are going to be some adjustments made, without question. First and foremost, attitude. First and foremost, doing the right things. I think we will in the short-term."


quote:

Miles clarified that "short-term" means before the bowl game.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33424 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

that no changes will be made/announced on defensive staff until after the bowl game?


that would be very concerning
Posted by jtiger
Gonzales
Member since Jun 2004
345 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:50 pm to
Even if we made a defensive coaching change before the bowl game, there's no way in hell that a new DC could install a new defense within several weeks. That is unrealistic to expect. If we beat GT, it will be with our current staff, without changes. Could I be wrong? Of course, but I don't think so.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22263 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:54 pm to
Exactly- when we beat Notre Damned in the bowl game back in the 90's, Dinardo had just hired Lou Tepper, so he used most of the exisiting defense with a few wrinkles which confused ND in the game. Little did we know his 'complete package' would eventually destroy our defense...
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Even if we made a defensive coaching change before the bowl game, there's no way in hell that a new DC could install a new defense within several weeks. That is unrealistic to expect. If we beat GT, it will be with our current staff, without changes. Could I be wrong? Of course, but I don't think so.


bingo
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Even if we made a defensive coaching change before the bowl game, there's no way in hell that a new DC could install a new defense within several weeks. That is unrealistic to expect. If we beat GT, it will be with our current staff, without changes. Could I be wrong? Of course, but I don't think so.


1.) We are playing a team that will require a unique approach anyway

2.) While the entire system wouldn't be in place, the new coaches could install the basics and adapt to the old scheme themselves in the short term.
Posted by MFV
Member since Oct 2008
911 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 8:55 pm to
I agree a new d could not be installed but we might as well put the new coordinator in place for team morale. the players obviously gave up on Teppermaleveto and there is no way we win with them leading us.
Posted by CTexTiger
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
4988 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 9:01 pm to
He may not be able to install a new defense, but maybe he can light the fire under the D and change attitudes. Nobody expects a new d installed so quickly, but a change in mindset could happen quicker.

What do we have to lose? Do you think a new coordinator would do worse? Worth the risk IMO.
Posted by HOUbengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8123 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 9:01 pm to
Miles may have a DC picked before the bowl game, but he is too classy to not let our current coaches earn their post season bonuses. Let's just relax and wait til after the bowl game for the announcement... the new coaches would not be able to implement their schemes and plays in time anyhow.





Posted by cajuncdm
Acadiana
Member since Aug 2007
1115 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 9:03 pm to
i believe the new DC will be "hired" prior to the bowl game, but the public knowing about it will depend if those on the chopping block have secured other jobs. If they have, Miles will give them the choice of coaching the bowl game or not. If the new DC does not coach bowl game, it will give him a head start on possibly assembling his defensive staff. I think Miles will give him a lot of autonomy in the hiring process. I think the new DC should be able to recommend coaches he believes will allow his system to flourish.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4968 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 9:13 pm to


I hope you guys are right about the behind the scenes things possibly taking place. I don't think a new DC matters terribly much for the bowl game. I just don't want to have Miles decide not to address the issue until after the game and consequently have fewer choices available to him.
Posted by TheChamp
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Oct 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 9:15 pm to
whoever the new dc is i doubt he could fix our clusterfrick of a d by the bowl game. i really don't care when the change is made, just that it's made and a few position coaches i won't mention are given their walking papers.
This post was edited on 12/6/08 at 9:16 pm
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7494 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 11:44 pm to
I thought that game was by far the best game that Tepper coached in his infamous career at LSU!
Posted by True Grit
in your heart :)
Member since Oct 2005
20252 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 11:48 pm to
if something doesnt happen this week, then nothing will happen until after the bowl.
This post was edited on 12/6/08 at 11:49 pm
Posted by True Grit
in your heart :)
Member since Oct 2005
20252 posts
Posted on 12/6/08 at 11:51 pm to
the new DC would not need to install an entire new scheme. they would just need to have a game plan for GT. it will not be any different from what the current DCs would have to do.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9167 posts
Posted on 12/7/08 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Zero percent chance we win the bowl game without a new dc. The players need a spark and reason to be excited even if the new dc wouldn't be able to imlement his scheme.


Yeah, I'm sure those seniors on defense will suddenly wake up and perform well for a new DC. Look, they packed it in for Ole Miss and Arky and this bowl game will be no different.

For the others, just imagine how confused they'll be if a new DC attempts to install a new defense in 3 weeks. It doesn't happen that way. Now, I can see them playing harder because they will be auditioning for a job next season.
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