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re: Do great athletes make great coaches?
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:27 pm to Uncommon Cents
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:27 pm to Uncommon Cents
Amazing talents rarely can relate to players not at that level.
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Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:45 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Mike Singletary? 
ummmmm...Major Applewhite?
ummmmm...Major Applewhite?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 12:30 am to glassman
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Johan Cruyf and Wooden are the best examples I can conceive.
Jorge Mário Lobo Zagallo actually did win
Posted on 12/22/10 at 1:12 am to biglego
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Mike Singletary?
Add in another great player turned terrible head coach: Jim Zorn
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:13 am to LSUFreek
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Do great athletes make great coaches?
I think it really depends. I can see four options.
Bad coaches:
1. Great players who rely on talent and don't really know good fundamentals to teach others.
2. Marginal talent who works to become great, but can't relate to players.
Great coaches:
3. Great players who don't do great with fundamentals, but are great leaders and personable.
4. Marginal talent who works to become great and can relate to players.
Some great athletes who were good coaches:
Rudy Tomjanovich - second round pick and five time all star won two NBA titles as a coach.
Tom Landry - Was an All Pro for the Giants as a player-coach, then had a great coaching career.
Marginal players who were great coaches:
Phil Jackson - had two NBA titles as a player, but was a reserve player. He is a hall of fame coach though.
Sean Payton - Never made it as a player, but won a Super Bowl as a coach.
Great athletes who were bad coaches:
Wayne Gretzky - The Great One had a lossing record as a coach. (143-161-24)
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:22 am to Ace Midnight
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guys who end up coaching start coaching pretty quickly, which necessarily means their playing career ended soon through injury, choice or lack of competitiveness or some combination.
A simple comparison - Bill Belichick played for Wesleyan, started coaching at 22,was a position coach in the NFL at 25, and a defensive coordinator at 33. Tom Brady played for Michigan, won 3 Superbowls, named All-Pro 5 times. If he suffered a career ending injury in practice tomorrow - he would be over 40 by the time he has the same coaching experience Belichick had at 33.
It goes back to the old saying...those who can do; those who can't teach.
The same goes for coaching in many instances.
ETA: For those teachers out there, I'm not putting you down. I know many people choose teaching because they want to help young people and it is a rewarding career. In fact, I always wished I had gone into teaching rather than following the money. It's just a saying I've heard many times, and often it is true.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:50 am to Uncommon Cents
Mediocre athletes that tried ike Hell to be good make the best coaches. Genetic freaks or people with God given talent can't relate as well to the common athlete.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:59 am to Uncommon Cents
I think great athletes tend to develop their talents on the field and play professionally for a good amount of time. Other guys develop their talents in coaching and are honing their talent as assistants while the better athletes are playing.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 12:27 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Do great athletes make great coaches?
There is no pattern on this.
Being a good or even superstar player doesn't equal being a good coach.
Some good players are bad coaches, and some bad players are great coaches.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 12:49 pm to Slinger16
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Does Ditka count?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 1:26 pm to Suntiger
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I think it really depends. I can see four options.
Bad coaches:
1. Great players who rely on talent and don't really know good fundamentals to teach others.
2. Marginal talent who works to become great, but can't relate to players.
Great coaches:
3. Great players who don't do great with fundamentals, but are great leaders and personable.
4. Marginal talent who works to become great and can relate to players.
What about the 5th option
Great players who are talented and have great fundamentals and can relate or teach players?
They may choose not to take up coaching because they are financially very well off - doesn't mean that they cannot do it!
Spurrier , Ditka were from an era where they didn't sign assured bonuses and multi-zillion dollar contracts - they also enjoyed coaching and went into it.
I am sure that many of the rich and smart players today would do it except that they probably would have nothing more to gain , in terms of fame, and given that any salary would be low for them the opportunity cost would be something to consider.
Posted on 12/23/10 at 5:38 am to LSUDad
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Pat Sullivan
Very close at one time to being the LSU HC - recall it was a relatively cheap buyout that derailed the deal.
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