re: Derek Mason has been contacted by LSU for DC position

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Exactly, not even apples to oranges, like Steak or Redfish to plain Cauliflower. Need to look at his Stanford Defenses, at least Stanford is committed to football. Vandy?????

His resume is actually quite solid.

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Yes let's just point to Stanford who is in a horrible conference with horrible teams. Only had to play a max 2 games against good offenses.

He's a nice guy but he is not the best option for a hire that will determine if O makes it past 2021.

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the dude has the track record of being a really good DC

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3 yrs at Stanford almost a decade ago. only 2 of those were by himself. I'm not sure you understand what a good track record is.

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All on here typing we can do better, we can also do worse.

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losers mentality

Let’s ride?!!!

Lmao... look at all closet racist showing their covert/subtle racism because the qualified black guy is about to get an opportunity to be the Defensive Coordinator at LSU.

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Yes let's just point to Stanford who is in a horrible conference with horrible teams. Only had to play a max 2 games against good offenses.

He's a nice guy but he is not the best option for a hire that will determine if O makes it past 2021.

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And what leads you to believe that Woody and the TAF big dogs are 100% committed to O. Now, I hope O makes it but he made lots of decisions that burned capital on all ends of the spectrum.

1) Football wise, his hires to replace Aranda and Brady got launched after 1 year.

Result: LSU on the hook for 4 million plus for Bo and 1.6 Million for Linehan and O lost Capital and Goodwill here.

2) While I have gone on record and saying personal life and what a Man does with respect to who is running around with, it is not grounds for firing and would in this case be illegal because O's young lady friend is not an employee of the University.

Result: However, lots of old school money folks don' like the image it created thus Loss of Goodwill and capital there. So while who O dates and runs around with is not something to fire him, his decision with all the pics with the young woman loss him capital with ADMIN and Donors.

3) Political decisions by O. When JBE announced his COVID-19 phase 1 back in spring, O went to back for JBE. Lots of anti JBE factions were not happy about him doing that as it seemed to give JBE political cover, some took it as a shot at Trump who was ranting about COVID-19 lockdowns, etc.

So the same TAF Money people who are anti JBE, another loss of Goodwill. Why would O get involved in that, let JBE as Governor deal with that himself.

4) Then he goes on Fox news and says Trump is doing a great job.

Result, now you have anti Trump leftist pissed at you and let me be clear, most of LSU Admin from their perspective, Trump was persona non grata.

I still don't know for the life of me why O got involved in any politics on either side. No Coach at LSU should ever get involved in Politics, period.

So I am not sure if there are people who are going to open the check book for O to make these hires. He is going to have constraints and if he does not win, put our win total here you think he needs, I think he is gone next year. Thus, Woody and TAF Money folks, the Big Money folks are not going to tell O go hire whoever you want and we will agree to another Bo Pelini year contract.

I think O made too many mistakes after winning the Clemson game last year and he is going to sink or swim with hires that have to work within the budget constraints Woody and TAF Money folks put him on.

Hiring a Mason, or Muschamp allows him to make a hire he wants, but does not put LSU on the hook for another 6 plus million dollars.


Lets wait and see, but if it is Mason or Muschamp, pay careful attention to the contract, How much is being paid from either Vandy or SCAR and how much LSU is on the hook for. If LSU goes that route, then hmmmm, tells you where O stands.If it is say a Marcus Freeman and LSU pays $6 million plus for 3 years, then that says O still has support with Woody and TAF money people

Qualified, he was fricking horrible.

It’s spelled REALIST, you spelled it wrong

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The dude has had multiple stops in P5 calling his own Defense as both a Coordinator and a Head Coach. He took Vandy to a Bowl Game as a HC after firing his DC mid-year in a make-or-break season and assuming DC Playcalling and flat out said, "I can do it better myself," and then put his money where his mouth was.

Put his job on the line and cut nuts and led Vandy to a bowl-season after he did it.

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I would also like to say that if this was the case then where was he the past 3 or 4 seasons? Did he not have any say whatsoever about the defense? If he is a great defensive mind and a great hire then why didn't he use his defensive mind the past few years?

Good coaches can do more with less and that obviously isn't the case with Mason so why should we trust him?

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Chanman8

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3 yrs at Stanford almost a decade ago. only 2 of those were by himself. I'm not sure you understand what a good track record is.

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Hmmm...

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only 2 of those were by himself.

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He was solo DC in 2012 at Stanford on the Farm. He was also a Broyles Finalist that year.

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I'm not sure you understand what a good track record is.

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I'm pretty sure that one of us doesn't understand what a good track record is. I do agree with you there.

Would be a very O hire, aka safe and totally underwhelming.