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re: Derek Mason has been contacted by LSU for DC position

Posted on 12/24/20 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26708 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 9:47 am to
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3 yrs at Stanford almost a decade ago. only 2 of those were by himself. I'm not sure you understand what a good track record is.


2012 and 2013 at Stanford (11th scoring D, 10th scoring D)

2015 and 2016 at Vandy (22nd scoring D, 35th scoring D)

while being a head coach and actually calling the plays on defense, this guy had a top 35 scoring defense, at Vandy, with Vandy talent, for 2 years straight. He finished top half of the SEC both years. He was #1 in scoring defense in the Pac both years at Stanford when he was the lone DC.

Not only was he playing better offenses at the time, he also last called DC plays only 4 years ago. This isn’t Pelini who hadn't did that since leaving LSU, Mason can still handle these offenses.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 2:14 pm to
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2015 and 2016 at Vandy (22nd scoring D, 35th scoring D)

while being a head coach and actually calling the plays on defense, this guy had a top 35 scoring defense, at Vandy, with Vandy talent, for 2 years straight. He finished top half of the SEC both years.


So what happened? Did he just quit having any input on the defenses since 2017?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10484 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 2:17 pm to
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He just turned 51 and is coming off of a 7 year tenure as an SEC Head Coach. He got hired as a HC in the SEC as a 44 year old. He got hired as a DC 8 years ago as a 43 year old. He was a Co-DC as a 42 year old. He was a Broyles Finalist in his early 40's. Dumbass.


He got hired with a significantly weaker resume than most coordinators to be a head coach. He’s been moved up the ladder quickly less bases on his work history and more based on other factors.

His record is he took over a top 10 defense and dropped their average ranking in his tenure, although it was still good. The year after he left the Stanford defense improved to the second best in country.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26708 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 5:53 pm to
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So what happened? Did he just quit having any input on the defenses since 2017?
He focused on being a HC like every other HC. Have you seen Bama's defense this year, last year, or the previous year? Bama played 2 good offenses this year and gave up 46+ each time. Last year they gave up 38 to Ole Miss, 28 to TAMU, 46 to LSU and 48 to Auburn. In 2018 they gave up 31 to Arkansas, 28 to UGA, 34 to Oklahoma, and 44 to Clemson.

Did Saban quit having input when he played offenses that have a pulse?

Having input vs being the play caller and controlling the defense, are two VASTLY different things.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:07 pm to
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He focused on being a HC like every other HC. Have you seen Bama's defense this year, last year, or the previous year? Bama played 2 good offenses this year and gave up 46+ each time. Last year they gave up 38 to Ole Miss, 28 to TAMU, 46 to LSU and 48 to Auburn. In 2018 they gave up 31 to Arkansas, 28 to UGA, 34 to Oklahoma, and 44 to Clemson.

Did Saban quit having input when he played offenses that have a pulse?

Having input vs being the play caller and controlling the defense, are two VASTLY different things.


The dude has been coaching for his job and instead of doing what has worked for him in calling the defense he decides not to? Come on dude.

The Saban comparison has got to stop. The dude still has good defenses that have done enough to actually win games. Can't say that about vandy the past few years.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:19 pm to
You guys are racist
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2518 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:36 pm to
And there you have it. The default accusation. So I guess the guy at Cincinnati most ppl want is white? No he is not. So your accusation is false. Dumbass piece of shite.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:39 pm to
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You guys are racist


STFU the grown ups are talking
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5827 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:41 pm to
When your arguments fail on merit, there’s always the race card.
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