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Debate on a CF podcast- TCU is a better job than Nebraska?

Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:56 pm
Do you agree? One said yes one said it’s a push

I laughed at first but the more I thought about it I’d prefer TCU in todays climate.


FYI it was on The Athletic podcast with Andy Staples and Ari Wasserman
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:57 pm to
I think it is, no question
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:58 pm to
TCU is better now.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:59 pm to
The instability of the big 12 hurts TCU. Otherwise, I think it’s a better job and easier to win at TCU right now
Posted by berniemoore
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:59 pm to
It is but will wither away after getting rid of the best coach in modern school history
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36530 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 4:00 pm to
Nebraska should go back to the Big 12. They could win there, recruit better and be successful.

They would leave a bunch of money on the table, but their fans want to win in football. They don’t care if they have a badass soccer field.

Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Nebraska should go back to the Big 12. They could win there, recruit better and be successful.


100% agree but no way they leave that B10 money for what will soon be little 12 money
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 4:05 pm to
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100% agree but no way they leave that B10 money for what will soon be little 12 money


Oh, I agree. But much of the financial windfall goes to stuff fans don’t care about.

Virtually every Nebraska fan would trade that money to be competing for Big 12 titles and recruiting Texas again.

And winning makes you money. Nebraska is a rich program that sells out every game.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

I laughed at first but the more I thought about it I’d prefer TCU in todays climate.


It may be a push today, but that won’t last. Nebraska doesn’t have a great setup for recruiting, but they still have a better name, a bigger fan and alumni base, and most importantly, a real conference with a big TV contract constantly bringing in a large amount of money.

What does it matter that TCU happens to be located in the Dallas metro if the B12 falls apart? If that happens, only OSU is a lock to find a P5 landing spot. The rest, including TCU, will be scrambling to get one of the one to three spots that may open up for expansion elsewhere. Anyone who doesn’t get a golden ticket becomes a de facto G5 program as the B12 becomes a slightly improved version of today’s AAC.

If the B12 does manage to stay together, it’s almost worse for TCU. Once UT and OU leave for the SEC, projections show their TV contract will be a little better than the AAC’s is today. That alone cancels any advantages they may have as a P5 program. Without that money coming in, they will never have the facilities and recruiting budget that bigger P5 programs do. Unless they hit another grand slam hire, they won’t be able to offset that disparity.
Posted by LVag1997
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 4:23 pm to
No, not at all. Nebraska will remain a P5 school in the Big 10. I really question the financial viability of the remaining schools in the revised Big 12 or whatever it will be.

I really think the revenues of those schools is vastly reduced as they won't command TV contracts worth any other conference.

As a result, I see coaching at any of those schools as a possible deterrent.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 4:24 pm
Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 4:37 pm to
Yes. If I’m a coach and had a choice between the 2 I’m choosing TCU. Better recruiting area and with OU and Texas coming to the SEC they’re going to have a chance at becoming the kings of the Big 12
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 5:12 pm to
Nebraska used to be a super elite program. Not any more. I’d take the TCU gig.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79837 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 5:17 pm to
Yeah

I would Rather live and recruit to Fort Worth than Lincoln.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 5:18 pm to
20 years ago no, today yes.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 5:21 pm to
Nebraska has kind of worn off as a national brand and it's really hurt their recruiting. Not a ton of talent in the states around them either. If they can't nationally recruit they are screwed. Tennessee shares a similar problem, but unlike Nebraska, they are surrounded by talent rich states and too many high caliber schools to pick from and they always end up with scraping the bottom of the barrel. Nebraska doesn't even get to do that, so they need to recruit on a national scale even more so and it just isn't working for them anymore. A school like TCU can scrape the bottom of the barrel in Texas and Louisiana and get more talent than Nebraska can recruiting the best players in their state and around them.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 6:56 pm to
I’ve been to a game in Lincoln. It’s a incredible atmosphere. There is no way TCU can compete in this respect.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 7:16 pm to
I know it’s popular to rail on Nebraska, but of course TCU isn’t a better job than Nebraska. Is it maybe easier to recruit and win at TCU than Nebraska?… probably. But that doesn’t make TCU a better overall job. Nebraska is a better overall program, in a better conference, with better resources, better fan support, and a better brand.

Nebraska is a good job. TCU is an okay job. But comparing the 2 is apples to oranges…one is a big boy job, the other is a stepping stone job for anyone not named Gary Patterson.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 7:17 pm
Posted by hogwildinhouston
Member since Oct 2011
818 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

I know it’s popular to rail on Nebraska, but of course TCU isn’t a better job than Nebraska. Is it maybe easier to recruit and win at TCU than Nebraska?… probably. But that doesn’t make TCU a better overall job. Nebraska is a better overall program, in a better conference, with better resources, better fan support, and a better brand.

Nebraska is a good job. TCU is an okay job. But comparing the 2 is apples to oranges…one is a big boy job, the other is a stepping stone job for anyone not named Gary Patterson.



So glad to see this post. I was going to be much more blunt about it.

It's laughable to think TCU is even in the same ballpark with Nebraska. Minus Gary Patterson / Francione, TCU's best year was in the mid-80s with Jim Wacker. Prior to that, you go back to the 60s.

There is no metric where TCU is better....none.

1. Recruiting - This one is at best a push, but really not even that. Nebraska is still a national brand, and only needs a competent coach. I still remember in Houston where nearly every sports bar had entire sections roped off for Nebraska games to handle their fans.

2. Facilities - Not even close. TCU has a nice stadium, but it's small. They don't even have a 100 yard regulation field in their indoor practice facility. There are probably 10 high schools within 50 miles of them that have that.

3. Fan support. Nebraska has 80,000 for every game, even when they suck. TCU could have a playoff team, and they wouldn't sell out the 45,000 unless the other team bought half the tickets.

4. Conference. Nothing needs to be said.

5. History.

A joke that it's even a conversation
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 10:03 pm to
Yep.

A coach would be insane to chose TCU over UNL unless they want job security with lower pay.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 10:57 pm to
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