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Coaching Performance Contracts

Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:49 am
Instead of ever escalating coach's salaries, why not a performance contract?

For an SEC example, base salary 3 mil, win 10 games $500,000 bonus, get a team in a NY 6 game another $500,000, win division $500,000, win SEC Championship $1,000,000, win a CFP $1,000,000, win NC $2,000,000.

Or any other type of merit bonuses. To me, that would be fair all the way around.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12732 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:05 pm to
Pretty much every coach in college football has some kind of bonus structure like that with different amounts of money.
Posted by TickNVM
ATL
Member since Sep 2016
153 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:10 pm to
Would this be for up and coming coaches or established coaches looking to make a change of scenery?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36174 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:23 pm to
Are you talking about a blanket rule for all of college football? or just suggesting that a particular school who doesn't want to pay a gigantic contract explore that option?

Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
3015 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Instead of ever escalating coach's salaries, why not a performance contract?

For an SEC example, base salary 3 mil, win 10 games $500,000 bonus, get a team in a NY 6 game another $500,000, win division $500,000, win SEC Championship $1,000,000, win a CFP $1,000,000, win NC $2,000,000.

Or any other type of merit bonuses. To me, that would be fair all the way around


Because that's not the market. You'd have to have all the schools collude to engage in that kind of arrangement. You can't be an outlier and beat the market--as soon as your up and coming coach has success, he's going to demand guaranteed money or leave.
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2959 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:59 pm to
No, a blanket rule would not fly. But some schools might try it.

And yes, there are incentives built in the contracts today. Just not on that scale.

Today my example would not work. But ever higher salaries could force a different compensation model to be developed and/or used.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:02 pm to
State laws allowing only 1 year contracts.

NCAA rule capping compensation.
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
4124 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:12 pm to
why do people think they have a right to restrict what someone else can make. oh yeah, anti capitalist.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:16 pm to
bottom line is the coaches have the leverage now so they get the favorable terms, when that changes, then there will be more earn your money type structured contracts as well as safety nets for ADs with "get out" clauses in contracts
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88341 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:28 pm to
Are you a communist?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:00 pm to
I'm as free market as they come, but the coaches have the universities over a barrel.

They demand these multi-year contracts worth millions per year, then underperform, get shite canned and still get paid.

It's a conundrum. When a coach is successful and gets a better offer from another school, he essentially breaks his contract and walks away. If he is not successful and is fired before his contract expires, he gets paid millions in the buyout.

It's kinda fricked up.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

It's a conundrum. When a coach is successful and gets a better offer from another school, he essentially breaks his contract and walks away. If he is not successful and is fired before his contract expires, he gets paid millions in the buyout.



So maybe don't fire your coach before the contract is up?

Both sides are held to the contract, not just the school. There's a buyout that has to be paid to the school losing the coach if the coach leaves for a better contract.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
19062 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Instead of ever escalating coach's salaries, why not a performance contract? For an SEC example, base salary 3 mil, win 10 games $500,000 bonus, get a team in a NY 6 game another $500,000, win division $500,000, win SEC Championship $1,000,000, win a CFP $1,000,000, win NC $2,000,000. Or any other type of merit bonuses. To me, that would be fair all the way around.


That would be better for the lesser conferences where they get to go undefeated or win their weak conference and get to go bowl at NY or a very good bowl. So forth. That will kill the SEC west division coaches big time!
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

So maybe don't fire your coach before the contract is up? 
Dude.

If a coach has 2 or 3 years left on a contract and is underperforming or flat out losing more games than they're winning, you gotta fire their arse.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:22 pm to
Well fine but why should the school be off the hook for the buyout if they agreed to it?

Either don't fire him before the contracts up or don't offer a buyout. Not going to get a reputable coach unless he has some job security though.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:24 pm
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