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re: Buyout if Aranda leaves for Texas

Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:14 pm to
Alleva should have listened to skips interview with hanny. Dude had 5 interviews set up in a week after saban decided to leave. Alleva talked to 2 guys in 2 months. Say what you want about the miles hiring but at least skip did his due diligence.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:35 pm to
Yea he did all those interviews and picked the 3rd best coach. Skip should have hired Fisher or Petrino
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:42 pm to
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Alleva should have listened to skips interview with hanny. Dude had 5 interviews set up in a week after saban decided to leave. Alleva talked to 2 guys in 2 months. Say what you want about the miles hiring but at least skip did his due diligence.



I honestly don't understand how people gloss over this.

It is an absolute failure to fire your coach 4 games into the season and then proceed to look at all of TWO frickING COACHES before settling for the D-Line coach who would probably pay LSU for the privilege of being LSU's coach. If O was his third choice (which is fricking pathetic, and inexcusable on its own), why not fricking interview your 4th, 5th, or 6th choice to see what's out there and get a better feel for the landscape of potential hires? Unfortunately, it's most likely because Aleva didn't even have a fricking 4th, 5th or 6th choice.

After taking the last 7 weeks off, Alleva decided that actually competing to get the top tier coaching candidates was too difficult and/or involved too much effort. He took the Mack Brown approach. Everyone on TD used to love bashing Mack Brown's recruiting process of "We only want guys who have bled burnt orange since birth". That's where we are.

How did Alleva even come up with the fricking dollar figure anyway? It's not like there's any market for Orgeron. Literally no other school is considering him as a HC candidate. Did he just pull 3.5 million out of his arse? Why not pay him 4.5? Why not pay him 2.5? There's just as much basis to pay him less than 2 million as there is to pay him over 3 million.


Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33374 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:47 pm to
I think he was told to offer that amount
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:54 pm to
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I think he was told to offer that amount



By who and based on what?

We weren't bidding against anybody, and even if we were, Orgeron 100% takes a steep discount for his "dream job"
Posted by JAF65
Houma,La
Member since Sep 2007
802 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:57 pm to
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ait, Big 12 team employ Defensive Coordinators? Who knew?


Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83016 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:57 pm to
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I just don't see why a DC would go from lsu to Texas. It isn't the 90s

Money
Austin > Baton Rouge
Texas has as much talent as Louisiana
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:27 pm to
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Herman wasn't coming here with Texas job open.


No matter how many times people say this it still doesn't make it anything other than speculation since aleva didn't even attempt to test him.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:30 pm to
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Literally no other school is considering him as a HC candidate.


It's too bad too, because if Orgeron entertained offers from another school aleva would have wiped his hands and walked away from Orgeron.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3773 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:31 pm to
He was a graduate assistant at Texas. His mentor was mack brown. Mac attended press conference and was one of the first guys Herman mentioned. His wife is posting pictures of them when he was at Texas and saying back where it started,good to be home.

And he was coming to lsu?! Alleva was right. Lsu was used to run the price up. Say what you want about Bebe but Herman was never coming and jimbo wanted stuoid money.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:34 pm to
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Lsu was used to run the price up


To 5 million?

And again is just speculation.

I wish I could find the quote from Herman to aleva, something about Texas being a mess and LSU being a much better situation.

Maybe we just had to match 5 million, but we will never know because aleva ran his hurt butt home.

Aleva never even gave him a chance to say no. I don't care how much you think he wanted to be at Texas, but you don't make the choice easy for him.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:02 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33374 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:06 am to
By the money people
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
31806 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:24 am to
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we do not need to take this quietly


This! The more we swallow this turd sandwich our administration keeps feeding us, the more we will get. We let Collins Temple pick our BB coach and now the good old baw's pick our football coach. The sooner we can send Alleva and his equally incompetent boss packing the better. We don't need him picking our new BB coach next year nor our new football coach 2-3 years from now.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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31806 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:30 am to
Too much is made of this. Miles passed up Michigan at least once, if not more, and one would say that Michigan was at least to him what Texas is to Herman. Although anyone in their right mind would choose Austin over the shithole my hometown has become, even if there weren't any other factors involved. It's also why I fully expect Aranda to bolt, although I can't imagine anyone that would want to work for a Mensa when you have a chance to work for the Cookie Monster.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23409 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:36 am to
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He ain't going anywhere.


Keep telling yourself that. I would say there is about an 85%+ probability that he is the DC at texass within 3-4 weeks.

Some of you have no idea how very little $1.4M actually is in college football nowadays... particularly at texass. The buyout is nothing... like a piece of scotch tape over the door to keep a burglar out. NOTHING

NFL jobs, talent, etc... NONE of that matters. Might as well prepare yourselves.



Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69476 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:39 am to
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Texas would absolutely pay this


not when the guy will be gone in a year or 2
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8449 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:36 am to
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Must pay LSU 50% of the amount remaining on his contract or roughly $1.4M.



Seems as though there would be a clause in his contract that he could pursue other opportunities in the event the head coach that hired him gets fired. There isn't any guarantee that a new coach would retain him so why would he be penalized for not wanting to work with the new head coach? I think a buyout would only cover the school in the event he wants to leave for a better job on his own accord.
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