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Brian Kelly history of hiring OCs
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:33 am
Some of you are bringing up big name OCs and will be disappointed if the OC is not a splash hire, but I don't understand why. Kelly's history is to be the architect of the offense and to bring in a young moldable OC to help him run it.
Here's a rundown of his OC choices since his days at Central Michigan (too hard to find Grand Valley State data):
Year (Team) OC
2004-2005 (CMU) Brian Kelly (no OC)
2006 (CMU) Jeff Quinn (promoted from within)
2007-2009 (Cinci) Jeff Quinn (followed Kelly)
2010-2011 (Notre Dame) Charley Molnar (OC experience from small colleges)
2012-2013 (Notre Dame) Chuck Martin (promoted from within)
2014 (Notre Dame) Mike Denbrock (only OC experience under Kelly at GVS)
2015-2016 (Notre Dame) Mike Sanford, Jr (1 year OC at Boise State)
2017-2019 (Notre Dame) Chip Long (1 year OC at Memphis)
2020-2021 (Notre Dame) Tommy Rees (promoted from within)
As you can see, BK has no record of hiring big name OCs, but rather inexperienced guys that learn under him a few years and move on.
Perhaps at 60, Kelly is ready to release the offense to an experienced OC and take more of a CEO role, but that would go against his history.
Here's a rundown of his OC choices since his days at Central Michigan (too hard to find Grand Valley State data):
Year (Team) OC
2004-2005 (CMU) Brian Kelly (no OC)
2006 (CMU) Jeff Quinn (promoted from within)
2007-2009 (Cinci) Jeff Quinn (followed Kelly)
2010-2011 (Notre Dame) Charley Molnar (OC experience from small colleges)
2012-2013 (Notre Dame) Chuck Martin (promoted from within)
2014 (Notre Dame) Mike Denbrock (only OC experience under Kelly at GVS)
2015-2016 (Notre Dame) Mike Sanford, Jr (1 year OC at Boise State)
2017-2019 (Notre Dame) Chip Long (1 year OC at Memphis)
2020-2021 (Notre Dame) Tommy Rees (promoted from within)
As you can see, BK has no record of hiring big name OCs, but rather inexperienced guys that learn under him a few years and move on.
Perhaps at 60, Kelly is ready to release the offense to an experienced OC and take more of a CEO role, but that would go against his history.
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:35 am to BhamTigah
You’re right. Looking at this, someone we’ve never heard will be the OC.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:36 am to BhamTigah
Seems like most of his ocs get replaced or fired.
I actually think denbrock is a good coach. Thought he might go in a different direction.
I actually think denbrock is a good coach. Thought he might go in a different direction.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:37 am to BhamTigah
This gives me hope that Joe Brady will be the hire.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:39 am to BhamTigah
It depends on how involved he wants to be with the offense. I assume a lot, but we'll see, since he is in a new spot with a lot of new staff and new players. But, correct, his MO has been to bring in younger guys and mold them to what he wants do on offense. Similar to what Saban did with Muschamp, Kirby, and Golding. And what Kirby is doing with Lanning and Shumann.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:39 am to BhamTigah
Praying it’s Sowder at Kent State
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:40 am to BhamTigah
quote:
Here's a rundown of his OC choices since his days at Central Michigan (too hard to find Grand Valley State data):
Chuck Martin was on his staff at GVSU. He was also the successor and won two D-II national championships prior to rejoining Kelly when he took the ND job.
Martin spent most of his time on defense, but he called plays as the HC at GVSU.
As best as I can remember, Kelly was calling plays at GVSU as well.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:46 am to NamariTiger
quote:
Praying it’s Sowder at Kent State
That offense is all Sean Lewis, Kent's HC. He came from Syracuse and brought in that warp speed tempo and has been successful. LSU could easily hire Lewis to be their OC, as Kent State would struggle to pay him anything more than about $1M/year.
It would be similar to Arkansas hiring Dan Enos as OC while he was the HC at Central Michigan. Lewis is a brilliant offensive mind, and even if you only have him for two years before he gets a shot at a bigger HC job, it would be worth it.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:47 am to NamariTiger
quote:Is that offense him or Lewis? If we’re going that far off the radar I would consider Matt Mumme.
Praying it’s Sowder at Kent State
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:49 am to BhamTigah
quote:
erhaps at 60, Kelly is ready to release the offense to an experienced OC and take more of a CEO role, but that would go against his history.
Why would he completely abandon everything he knows as a head coach when it's been so successful for him?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:49 am to BhamTigah
quote:
2004-2005 (CMU) Brian Kelly (no OC)
2006 (CMU) Jeff Quinn (promoted from within)
2007-2009 (Cinci) Jeff Quinn (followed Kelly)
2010-2011 (Notre Dame) Charley Molnar (OC experience from small colleges)
2012-2013 (Notre Dame) Chuck Martin (promoted from within)
2014 (Notre Dame) Mike Denbrock (only OC experience under Kelly at GVS)
2015-2016 (Notre Dame) Mike Sanford, Jr (1 year OC at Boise State)
2017-2019 (Notre Dame) Chip Long (1 year OC at Memphis)
2020-2021 (Notre Dame) Tommy Rees (promoted from within)
Has he ever had $1m+ as a budget to hire an OC? I'm not worried. I think he can aim higher now, and likely will.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:50 am to multicampus
quote:
Chuck Martin was on his staff at GVSU. He was also the successor and won two D-II national championships prior to rejoining Kelly when he took the ND job.
Martin spent most of his time on defense, but he called plays as the HC at GVSU.
As best as I can remember, Kelly was calling plays at GVSU as well.
Thanks for that added info Multicampus.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:51 am to Chalkywhite84
Quinn took HC job at Buffalo
Molnar took HC job at UMass
Martin took HC job at Miami of Ohio
Denbrock took OC at Cincinnati
Sanford Jr took HC job at WKU
looks like solid coaches to me.
Molnar took HC job at UMass
Martin took HC job at Miami of Ohio
Denbrock took OC at Cincinnati
Sanford Jr took HC job at WKU
looks like solid coaches to me.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:53 am to kbroom
quote:
Has he ever had $1m+ as a budget to hire an OC? I'm not worried. I think he can aim higher now, and likely will.
Not sure what the budget was, but I'm pretty sure Notre Dame could get an experienced OC if that had been Kelly's desire.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:55 am to BhamTigah
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Kelly's history is to be the architect of the offense
Why do people keep saying this? Brian Kelly is a defensive coach by trade. He was a DC his entire career before becoming a head coach. He's the architect for his offenses on the same level Nick Saban is.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:00 am to lsufball19
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Why do people keep saying this? Brian Kelly is a defensive coach by trade. He was a DC his entire career before becoming a head coach. He's the architect for his offenses on the same level Nick Saban is.
He's a bit of an enigma. You're right, he was a DC. However, he ran his own offenses at GVSU and early at CMU. He's now known for his offensive prowess.
Apparently that well-rounded coach thing runs in his coaching tree as Mike Denbrock had stints under Kelly as both OC and DC.
It's actually awesome that he has experience on both sides of the ball.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 11:03 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:00 am to Chalkywhite84
quote:
Seems like most of his ocs get replaced or fired.
Jeff Quinn was with him through multiple stops. he left when he was offered the head coaching job at Buffalo.
Charley Molnar replaced Quinn and left when he got the head coaching job at UMass
Chuck Martin replaced Molnar and left when he got the head coaching job at Miami of Ohio
Mike Denbrock replaced Martin for one year and was then moved back to WR coach, then left to take the OC job at Cincinnati
Mike Sanford replaced Denbrock and left when he got the head coaching job at Western Kentucky
Chip Long replaced Sanford and was fired
Tommy Rees replaced Long and is still at Notre Dame
It appears almost all of his OCs took head coaching jobs. Only one was fired.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:12 am to BhamTigah
Good research. Thanks
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:45 am to BhamTigah
Kelly said he would only hire the best of coaches at LSU.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:48 am to BhamTigah
How many of those OC actually got promoted to another job (hired) vs let go/fired?
Seems like a lot of turnover
Seems like a lot of turnover
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