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re: Austin Thomas is out moving forward
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:26 am to Rrrrroger
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:26 am to Rrrrroger
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He’s the most overrated management dweeb in the sport. The results do not match the reverence that so many fans online hold for him
or it could be...some of us actually understand what he did. Everyone saying he sucks and OM has been better....who the frick do you think built the OM roster and got the NIL ducks in a row? He was only at LSU for 2 seasons and talent level jumped big time
why did we suddenly reorganized the way NIL was done? Why did we suddenly become a player in the portal?
what evals did he miss on?
DBs?...nope hit on 3 he brought in.
OL- nope, the two he brought in were our 2 best
DL- nope, the transfers were our best
i guess you could say QB, but they brought him in to be backup
WR.....i mean the transfers were some of our best.
so who in the frick did he suck at evaluating?
not to mention...we are way way ahead of the game in terms of NIL and the way we structured it, especially with HS NIL being legal in the state and we are setup great when rev share comes in because we frontloaded contracts
now if Kiffin wants someone else...great. Kiffin knows a frick ton more than I ever will on this. and Glasscock has done great things for OM and LK thinks he is better than AT....great
but lets not act like AT didnt know what he was doing.
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:38 am to lsu777
that's fine but both his critics and fans can't really pinpoint what he does. Even you who "understands" can you speak specifically to what players he identified and brought in? What specifically did he do that restructured our NIL? Was it him or the other guy that came from OM? It's always very vague with him. Now he continues to find work so he must be doing something right, but his longest stint anywhere was his first here. Everything else seems to be a 2 year max
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 8:42 am
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:55 am to BilJ
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that's fine but both his critics and fans can't really pinpoint what he does. Even you who "understands" can you speak specifically to what players he identified and brought in? What specifically did he do that restructured our NIL? Was it him or the other guy that came from OM? It's always very vague with him. Now he continues to find work so he must be doing something right, but his longest stint anywhere was his first here. Everything else seems to be a 2 year max
1) he helped organize the NIL situation to start front loading the contracts for the HS kids so that if they take the HS NIL money and decommit, they have to pay it back. 1 of the main reasons we didnt see many decommits this year
2) He changed how our NIL was setup. Look at all the changes in terms of bayou traditions starting the partnership with TAF, how donations are distributed etc. There is a huge reason why our NIL spending jumped 400% along with the ability to get way ahead on the rev sharing coming down. Also helped, along with clay harris(not the baseball players) the relationship with Playfly that started the whole NILMax program
3) he completely changed our Portal strategy. This was not easy and BK was very very against it. Hell BK didnt even want a GM, was forced on him
as far if it was AT or people brought in with him....AT was in charge of that department. period.
He is good at what he does...he sucks at timing though when taking jobs or choosing who he should work for. Some of his bouncing was trying to get an AD role etc and some of it was trying to be at schools he liked
but he isnt even being let go for on the field reasons. how and LK had a falling out when he left OM and him taking staffers etc.
and Im ok with LK replacing him, he has earned the right and trust for everyone to not question his decisions, atleast as of now. He has worked with him and Glasscock and the thinks Glasscock is better. and if we are being honest, they have had a better roster with less resources the last 2 years despite the record being 1-1.
and honestly ATs strength is more on the numbers side anyways. not evals for sure. Its more...hey coach, found this guy...can you eval him...if they like them, he finds out how much and makes the numbers work for everyone. And his strength it more on the organizing part of that even, not even really the math itself. see above when i mentioned frontlaoding contracts etc.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:05 am to Wichita Co Tiger
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Everyone on the message boards hold him in such high regards but our evaluations have flat out sucked.
I disagree- our defense this year was totally rebuilt in the portal and looked legit. The transfer linemen were probably our best in that unit. The WRs looked unimpressive but who the hell knows, we only threw the ball laterally.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:40 am to lsu777
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and honestly ATs strength is more on the numbers side anyways. not evals for sure. Its more...hey coach, found this guy...can you eval him...if they like them, he finds out how much and makes the numbers work for everyone. And his strength it more on the organizing part of that even, not even really the math itself. see above when i mentioned frontlaoding contracts etc.
Good job.
I have wondered exactly what AT did. Your post answered that question.
In short, he was more of a financial guy than an evaluator of talent and the decision maker on recruits.
Is Glasscock more of a talent evaluator?
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:40 am to lsu777
well aright then, can't argue with much of that
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:43 am to One Arm Steve
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The transfer linemen were probably our best in that unit.
that's fair but given the state of our DL, those portal guys were no brainer takes. Now as 777 pointed out, you may credit AT with getting them paid
Posted on 12/4/25 at 9:53 am to lsu777
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what evals did he miss on?
18 portal guys. The ones we missed on.
Donovan Green
Bauer Sharp
Destin Hill
Nic Anderson
Barion Brown(not a top shelf guy, but certainly played a lot)
Ja’Keem Jackson
Sydir Mitchell
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:00 am to doubleb
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Good job.
I have wondered exactly what AT did. Your post answered that question.
In short, he was more of a financial guy than an evaluator of talent and the decision maker on recruits.
Is Glasscock more of a talent evaluator?
im not positive but i think he is very much in the mold of AT. did the same job as AT for OM.
If what the OM fans were saying...its more he is better with the numbers and used the systems AT put in place to push the envelope. But they had trouble getting enough NIL this past year and other schools caught up to them organizationally and financially. But to be fair the OM staff did a much much better job finding diamonds in the rough once AT left
I will say AT was very forward thinking with the whole HS NIL deal. Literally our who class is funded NIL wise already and paid so wont be coming out of Rev share and because it was HS NIL and not CFB...they could write contracts tying the money to LSU not somewhere else.
That system has LSU way ahead than 99% of schools going forward and because the state leg pushed to make HS NIL legal...it sets us up to continue to do that going forward allowing us to have substantial amounts of CFB legal NIL and Rev share to put toward maintaining a roster and the Portal vs having to split that money to get your HS class lined up.
even going forward under the new rules, we will be able to make recruits still in HS sign contracts and front load things through collective style NIL as that will not be subject to the new NCAA oversite committee
Other states have similar laws but not all. LA's are pretty lenient which is huge advantage.
AT should be remembered for his ability to completely overhaul how we do NIL, but his biggest contribution will be this class and front loading the money through collective NIL allowing LK to use Rev share to maintain roster and kill in the portal.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:08 am to doubleb
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Bauer Sharp
starter at TE...didnt miss on him. lack of production has nothing to do with it
quote:brought in as a blocking back up TE to play after sharp left. We have no clue if we missed or not on him
Donovan Green
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Destin Hill
has shown promise and is only a soph. was not brought in to be a starter
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Nic Anderson
coming off injury and got very limited targets. His main skill set is blocking(which he did very well) and down the field vertical passing game....which AT had nothign to do with us going away from
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Barion Brown(not a top shelf guy, but certainly played a lot)
so our best WR was a miss? wtf?
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Ja’Keem Jackson
this is a corey raymond guy. Corey wanted him and he was brought as a depth piece to develop...which is excatly what he did
Who the frick am I to question Corey Raymond?
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Sydir Mitchell
similar to Jackson, they was a bo davis guy from texas that bo wanted based off what he wanted out of his strongside DT. Kyle Williams wanted smaller quicker linenman. He left the program because Bo left
who the frick am I to question Bo Davis?
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:12 am to BilJ
FTR....I do think Glasscock will do just as good or better job than AT
but its just people dont really understand what AT did and he is catching blame for shite he had nothing to do with.
again identifying possible transfers that could help the team and contracts along with identification of HS recruits was main job.
BK lazy mother fricking arse should catch most of the blame. especially when it comes to recruiting.
but its just people dont really understand what AT did and he is catching blame for shite he had nothing to do with.
again identifying possible transfers that could help the team and contracts along with identification of HS recruits was main job.
BK lazy mother fricking arse should catch most of the blame. especially when it comes to recruiting.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:16 am to doubleb
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18 portal guys. The ones we missed on.
Donovan Green
Bauer Sharp
Destin Hill
Nic Anderson
Barion Brown(not a top shelf guy, but certainly played a lot)
Ja’Keem Jackson
Sydir Mitchell
Nic Anderson certainly has been disappointing. But, some of the "didn't pan out" belongs squarely on the coaching staff, not Austin Thomas.
Is it Austin's fault that Bauer Sharp looked like he was just learning how to block out on the edge every time he took the field? Our development sucked arse under BK and the offensive staff.
Doesn't matter. Austin out. Glasscock in. I guess Glasscock comes with a good rep as far as talent evaluation or Kiffin wouldn't have brought him.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 10:19 am to lsu777
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BK lazy mother fricking arse should catch most of the blame. especially when it comes to recruiting.
No doubt. Thomas is good at his job. The most glaring and obvious example of it being coaching and not the “front office” is last years offensive line. 4 of the guys got drafted and are doing well in the NFL and they sucked as a unit at LSU. So what do we do? Re up in the portal and bring in highly recruited prospects… and the suck again.
That’s Kelly’s department, not Thomas’
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