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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by Soft_Parade
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:35 am
Has anyone from the media (radio included), asked Ed what his approach is today and how that approach has been influenced by the hires that didn't work out?

If you have a successful staff, you will have a steady stream of turnover - for the right reasons - every year and the monies being paid out for the mistakes will be minimal. Therefore, understanding the profile of those that were a success and recruited away vs.those that were not is extraordinarily important.

Sometimes the head man is not the best at evaluating and/or lets emotion and a personal connection override the red flags that might exist with the candidates performance and trajectory. If they are aware of that shortcoming, then they should have someone on their staff who is good at evaluation, maintains a list of potential candidates, and keeps in touch with them. Does Ed have someone filling that role for him now?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:43 am to
I am Slightly concerned that O’s main concern on offense seems to be continuity

I understand it. We have an amazing offense in 2019. So I really do get it, and if we could keep that going it’s great.

My concerns are
1. that we’re maybe putting continuity over quality, and
2. As personal changes we need to be able to adapt the offense. For instance: they keep saying we had 1 RB run play in 2019 l, inside zone.

And that works when Joe is shredding defenses through the air and you have a guy like CEH who is strong through contact, and is great at reading blocks.

But when you don’t have that, you need more creativity in the run game.
Posted by WHS
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:43 am to
I am sure he is looking for another Joe Brady and Dave Aranda

Posted by Randolphre
Kingsport, TN
Member since Jun 2019
228 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:46 am to
It wasn't just Clyde's tackle breaking and vision, it was also his shiftiness. He would put dudes in the spin cycle on the regular, even when they were coming in completely unblocked.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:49 am to
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that we’re maybe putting continuity over quality, and
2. As personal changes we need to be able to adapt the offense. For instance: they keep saying we had 1 RB run play in 2019 l, inside zone.



We had the 15th ranked passing offense in the country this year and total offense was ranked in the 30s.

That was with 2 freshmen qbs and missing your top 3 pass catchers for most of the season. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the system in place.

No one is giving a script to the OC saying these are the only plays that you’re allowed to run. He’s being handed a playbook and being asked to run it and expand on it.

You want terminology and overall philosophies to stay the same.

This is the same thing Alabama has been doing since Kiffin left and it’s really the only way to handle it when you’re not an offensive minded head coach. You can’t afford to completely rebuild your offense every 2-3 years when you have to hire a new OC.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:54 am to
I think biggest shift in the game regarding offenses is keeping the D as “honest” as possible and making them account for as much of the field as possible and as many bodies on the field as possible. Variety, #s of play makers, and spacing all contribute to that. Brady was great at installing those aspects and we have a shite to of great play makers. The new OC will have to do that, coach up our players so we have more “play makers” and craft the offense to fit their strengths. I can assure you that if we had the RBs we had through the early 2010s Brady would’ve run a different O.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 11:57 am to
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If they are aware of that shortcoming, then they should have someone on their staff who is good at evaluation, maintains a list of potential candidates, and keeps in touch with them. Does Ed have someone filling that role for him now?


We just rehired Austin Thomas as GM. I think you have your answer.
Posted by Soft_Parade
Member since Sep 2005
2502 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:00 pm to
Very much agree. We should have an established style of play on offense and defense and that style will be adjusted based on the personnel at hand. Every now and then you will catch lightening in the bottle, but I believe for someone like coach O, personal connections and reliving the past should take a back seat to finding coaches with recent accomplishments to fall back on who can bring their own innovations and energy to the staff. I am less concerned about the hires that will follow on offense than I am with the defense.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66616 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:00 pm to
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We had the 15th ranked passing offense in the country this year and total offense was ranked in the 30s.



Because we threw it over 42 times a game.

We threw 61st in YPPassing Attempt
Our rushing offense was 109th
Our redzone TD% was 104th
We were 102nd in 3rd down conversion
We averaged 18 PPG vs teams with winning records.

We had significant issues with our offense.

We had significant issues. We were great at running up the score on bad defenses.


Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:07 pm to
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We had significant issues with our offense



Which is one of the reasons we’re looking for a new coordinator right now. There is absolutely no reason to blow the whole thing up though especially with the talent we currently have. I don’t want these young qbs go through what Myles went through when he had to learn 3 different offensive schemes in his first 3 years.

A program needs some institutional memory to maintain success
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66616 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:10 pm to
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There is absolutely no reason to blow the whole thing up though especially with the talent we currently have


My point is the only reason to blow it up is if we can’t run it effectively.

Remember this: Alabama has had a similar offense but it hasn’t been exactly the same.

Kiffin completely changed it from 2015 to 2016 because he had a Freshmen Jalen Hurtz and no Derrick Henry. And Sark doesn’t run the exact same offense as Locksley. There were articles about the changes.


Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:19 pm to
And peetz won’t be exactly the same Brady’s just like E’s wasn’t exactly the same. Every coordinator is going to have different ideas and tendencies. They’re also going to expand on what is already there.

That’s better than getting someone like Harrell, for instance, who would like want to tear everything down and install his own offense
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66616 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:28 pm to
Sagan still brought in outside guys

Daboll and Locksley had no connections.

Kiffin and Sark are obviously but there are a few years in between
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:33 pm to
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Daboll and Locksley had no connections.



Locksley was an analyst under Kiffin in 2016 which is one of the reasons he was co-OC with Daboll.

Pretty similar to Peetz and Mangas actually. The only difference is that Peetz also has history with Brady
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 1:46 pm to
That’s an exaggeration that we had 1 run play but it’s true we didn’t have many. We had the inside zone you spoke of, the outside stretch, some counters, pitches and a few HB delays. The secret to their success besides Clyde’s ankle breaking cuts and spins and ability to get small in the hole was that each run play had the ability to be run from different formations and different directions. What we lacked in number of running plays we made up for in near perfect execution of the plays we did run.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 1:49 pm
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