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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:37 am to thegreatboudini
Finished Crocodile Tears and Pirate by Ted Bell. Started Winds of War by Herman Wouk. Excellent thus far.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:02 pm to glassman
The Black Dahlia by James Ellroy
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:07 pm to Dubosed
The Two Towers - J.R.R. Tolkien
Sea Hawke - Ted Bell
Sea Hawke - Ted Bell
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:52 pm to Dubosed
I love Elroy. L.A Confidential is one of my favorites.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:55 pm to SW2SCLA
SW I have Seahawke on request from the library. Probably about a week or ten days out.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 3/14/22 at 5:03 am to glassman
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SW I have Seahawke on request from the library. Probably about a week or ten days out.
Finished it yesterday. 11 and 12 werent bad
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:31 am to drexyl
Will finish The Winds of War tonight and start Where Eagles Dare my Aliststair McLean.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:15 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Catch-22
Started that is week.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 7:42 pm to LordSnow
Just finished The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks, now going with Proven Guilty by Jim Butcher.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:37 pm to Horsemeat
Martin Luther by Eric Metaxas
Posted on 3/17/22 at 10:53 pm to Rockbrc
Girl, Taken by Blake Pierce
Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:17 pm to NoHoTiger
Prayers For Rain - Dennis Lehane
Posted on 3/22/22 at 6:24 pm to Shotgun Willie
Diablo Mesa by Preston & Child
Posted on 3/23/22 at 8:49 am to alphamicro
Sierra Six. New Gray Man. Enjoying it very much.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 1:11 pm to glassman
Haven't started this yet, but I'm ready to pick up Zinky Boys.
It was published not long after the Soviet-Afghan war and gives a bunch of first-hand accounts of various Soviet veterans and their families immediately following the war.
The book gets its name because the Soviet government was so determined to keep Soviet citizens in the dark about what was actually going on in the war that soldiers KIA were initially unceremoniously buried in zinc caskets.
An LA Times review of the books.
LINK
I perceive the world through the medium of human voices,” Svetlana Alexievich declares near the end of “Zinky Boys: Soviet Voices from the Afghanistan War,” explaining both her method and her point of view. For Alexievich — who in October became just the third nonfiction writer and 14th woman to receive the Nobel Prize in literature — testimony may be as close as one can get to faith.
...
Truth of course is a relative concept, especially when it comes to war. This is especially the case with the Soviet disaster in Afghanistan, a nine-year incursion so steeped in secrecy that until 1985 (the fighting began in December 1979), Soviet citizens were told that troops had been sent to Afghanistan to work on humanitarian and infrastructure projects, fulfilling what was euphemistically called “international duty.”
Even the bodies of those who died in the fighting were kept under wraps, returned home in zinc coffins (hence the title of this book) that were not allowed to be opened, buried in the dead of night. Once the story of the war began to be told, the narrative became one of national embarrassment.
“In the last war everyone was in mourning,” a young widow tells Alexievich, “there wasn’t a family in the land that hadn’t lost some loved one. Women wept together then. There’s a staff of 100 in the catering college where I work, and I’m the only one who had a husband killed in a war which all the rest have only read about in the papers. I wanted to smash the screen the first time I heard someone on television say that Afghanistan was our shame. That was the day I buried my husband a second time.”
“Zinky Boys” is not a new piece of work; it was first published in the United States in 1992 and has been reissued in the wake of its author’s Nobel win. Even so, the power of the book remains these voices: widows, mothers, veterans, all lost in a society that finds them of little utility.
They are reminders of a period that official culture would rather be forgotten, which is precisely what makes them of such interest to Alexievich. It is in their small stories, after all, individual and particular, that the larger story of the war begins to emerge. Not only that, but the voices here become the tools by which the broader social fiction may be broken down.
To get at this, Alexievich lets her subjects speak in their own words, one after the other, until the act of reading becomes a kind of slow immersion, and the sheer scope of the loss and the corruption reveals itself. This is only heightened by the decision not to name her sources; they are identified here only in the most generic terms. The effect is of confronting a series of everymen and everywomen, archetypal and yet wholly specific — or perhaps more accurately, interchangeable: What happened to them could happen to anyone.
“We didn’t betray our Motherland,” argues an artillery private. “I did my duty as a soldier as honestly as I could. Nowadays it’s called a ‘dirty war,’ but how does that fit in with ideas like Patriotism, the People and Duty? Is the word ‘Motherland’ just a meaningless term to you? We did what the Motherland asked of us.”
...
Call it oral history, call it, as the Swedish Academy did, “a history of emotions, … a history of the soul” — what it amounts to a devastating set of truths. “You soon got used to it,” a reconnaissance operative observes of hand-to-hand killing. “It was less a psychological problem than the technical challenge of actually finding the upper vertebrae, heart or liver.” Judge his comment however you wish, but what is undeniable is the sense of his perspective, his experience, the dehumanization war exerts on even those who survive.
It was published not long after the Soviet-Afghan war and gives a bunch of first-hand accounts of various Soviet veterans and their families immediately following the war.
The book gets its name because the Soviet government was so determined to keep Soviet citizens in the dark about what was actually going on in the war that soldiers KIA were initially unceremoniously buried in zinc caskets.
An LA Times review of the books.
LINK
I perceive the world through the medium of human voices,” Svetlana Alexievich declares near the end of “Zinky Boys: Soviet Voices from the Afghanistan War,” explaining both her method and her point of view. For Alexievich — who in October became just the third nonfiction writer and 14th woman to receive the Nobel Prize in literature — testimony may be as close as one can get to faith.
...
Truth of course is a relative concept, especially when it comes to war. This is especially the case with the Soviet disaster in Afghanistan, a nine-year incursion so steeped in secrecy that until 1985 (the fighting began in December 1979), Soviet citizens were told that troops had been sent to Afghanistan to work on humanitarian and infrastructure projects, fulfilling what was euphemistically called “international duty.”
Even the bodies of those who died in the fighting were kept under wraps, returned home in zinc coffins (hence the title of this book) that were not allowed to be opened, buried in the dead of night. Once the story of the war began to be told, the narrative became one of national embarrassment.
“In the last war everyone was in mourning,” a young widow tells Alexievich, “there wasn’t a family in the land that hadn’t lost some loved one. Women wept together then. There’s a staff of 100 in the catering college where I work, and I’m the only one who had a husband killed in a war which all the rest have only read about in the papers. I wanted to smash the screen the first time I heard someone on television say that Afghanistan was our shame. That was the day I buried my husband a second time.”
“Zinky Boys” is not a new piece of work; it was first published in the United States in 1992 and has been reissued in the wake of its author’s Nobel win. Even so, the power of the book remains these voices: widows, mothers, veterans, all lost in a society that finds them of little utility.
They are reminders of a period that official culture would rather be forgotten, which is precisely what makes them of such interest to Alexievich. It is in their small stories, after all, individual and particular, that the larger story of the war begins to emerge. Not only that, but the voices here become the tools by which the broader social fiction may be broken down.
To get at this, Alexievich lets her subjects speak in their own words, one after the other, until the act of reading becomes a kind of slow immersion, and the sheer scope of the loss and the corruption reveals itself. This is only heightened by the decision not to name her sources; they are identified here only in the most generic terms. The effect is of confronting a series of everymen and everywomen, archetypal and yet wholly specific — or perhaps more accurately, interchangeable: What happened to them could happen to anyone.
“We didn’t betray our Motherland,” argues an artillery private. “I did my duty as a soldier as honestly as I could. Nowadays it’s called a ‘dirty war,’ but how does that fit in with ideas like Patriotism, the People and Duty? Is the word ‘Motherland’ just a meaningless term to you? We did what the Motherland asked of us.”
...
Call it oral history, call it, as the Swedish Academy did, “a history of emotions, … a history of the soul” — what it amounts to a devastating set of truths. “You soon got used to it,” a reconnaissance operative observes of hand-to-hand killing. “It was less a psychological problem than the technical challenge of actually finding the upper vertebrae, heart or liver.” Judge his comment however you wish, but what is undeniable is the sense of his perspective, his experience, the dehumanization war exerts on even those who survive.
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