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Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by OFWHAP
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:21 pm to
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I just saw your post in the other thread, you don't think telling the non readers who Jon Snow's real parents are isn't spoiling anything?



Has the whole "R+L=J" theory been proven?
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:48 pm to
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Has the whole "R+L=J" theory been proven?


Not definitively. But it is one of the more widely accepted SOI&F theories. Some even speculate that if it doesn't pan out it's likely because GRRM gets ticked off that people figured it out.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:04 pm to
Exactly
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:16 pm to
is the stark gene just that freaking dominate? don't all Targs have blonde hair from inbreeding?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:18 pm to
I think Valyrian genes are fairly recessive. Princess Rhaenys had Dornish features.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:19 pm to
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I think Valyrian genes are fairly recessive. Princess Rhaenys had Dornish features.



thats why they were so into incest

they wanted to keep their white/blonde hair flowing
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:22 pm to
Targ genes are recessive, so it's no surprise that Jon has the Stark look. Princess Rhaenys looked Dornish too. Aegon had Targ looks, but you have to remember the Dornish have Targ blood in them. And a lot of the Targ bastards didn't look Targ either.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:29 pm to
Brynden Rivers is 1/2 Targ and he looks like a tree.
Posted by Jayre
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:41 pm to
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Ranking my Top 5 POVs:

1) Jaime
2) Arya
3) Tyrion
4) Theon
5) Cersei
6) Sansa


quite possibly the most boring chapters besides Brienne's... no love for Jon? Davos?
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:43 pm to
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is the stark gene just that freaking dominate? don't all Targs have blonde hair from inbreeding?



Stark genes are pretty recessive too. Most of the Stark kids look more like Tullys than Starks.

Targ genes are just the most recessive
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:47 pm to
Tyrion wouldn't be in my Top 5 after his "Where do Whores Go" crap and general attitude and storyline in ADWD.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:48 pm to
I think Davos are great, I love the POV from a common man, who has worked his way up the ladder
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:57 pm to
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quite possibly the most boring chapters besides Brienne's... no love for Jon? Davos?


Think you're pretty alone on that. Sure Theon isn't a likable character, but Theon's chapters improve greatly because you are inside of his head and you know what he's thinking. It's particularly why Theon's later chapters are difficult to bring to screen.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:33 pm to
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Some even speculate that if it doesn't pan out it's likely because GRRM gets ticked off that people figured it out.


Man what would be the alternative with Jon? Id be so pissed
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Man what would be the alternative with Jon?


That when he gets stabbed he dies the "true death" and that is the end of his story line.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
5389 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:47 pm to
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That when he gets stabbed he dies the "true death" and that is the end of his story line.


I'd need a true death after that
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44930 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:06 pm to
watch the next book not included a Jon POV and the only news we get from the wall are letters to Stannis or Winterfell
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:21 pm to
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Some even speculate that if it doesn't pan out it's likely because GRRM gets ticked off that people figured it out.


#Throneception

Throneception-when plot twists in ASOIAF novels and the TV series are caused by G.R.R. Martin and/or the show writers reading ideas off of an online message board. Those changes can either involve incorporating ideas posted as theories or by changing plots that were "spoiled" before they were supposed to be revealed in the novels/series.
Posted by 19
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 1:38 pm to
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#Throneception


Hee hee. I'd forgotten that term.

Crackpot:

Jon Arryn's mantra "The seed is strong"

What exactly was meant by this? Is it only a reference to the Bartheon gene as advertised, or was JA looking deeper into the Targ and Lannister lines...was he on to Jaime or Cersei being fathered by Mad King?
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