re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Can we talk a little about how different people view Sansa's character? I know a few people that think she deserves everything she gets, even if it were to be getting raped by LF. Mainly because of how she betrayed her family and was so oblivious to Joffrey's true nature.

Otoh, you have people that are more sympathetic to her character.

How do y'all feel about this?

Sansa is one of my favorite characters. She was a naive child at the start of the series but is she really to blame for it? I blame it on Ned and Cat for raising her that way and on Ned for not telling Robert "no" or rejecting the betrothal before they even got to know Joffrey.

I reckon I was oblivious when I was Sansa's age too, and most young teenage girls are.

I can't believe there are fans out there who still hate her guts...have they even finished Feast? How could they not see that she isn't into men like Joffrey or Harrold Hardying or Loras anymore??

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I reckon I was oblivious when I was Sansa's age too, and most young teenage girls are. I can't believe there are fans out there who still hate her guts..

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They are out there. I figure it's more the tomboyish girls that hate her.

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even though I love Arya).

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Everybody loves Arya

Also, how much further in Sansa's storyline do y'all think the show will go this season? Lysa out the Moon Door was the last chapter in ASOS.

I like her character much more now than I did. I contribute that to her simply having to grow up and coming into her own as a character.

I never thought she deserved what happened to her, but she was your pretty typical annoying teenage girl pre-Ned's death.

I hate Sansa because she is a whiny woe-is-me bitch. I mean Arya and Jeyne Poole have faced shite 100x worse than her and handled it way better.

Honestly, Sansa has gotten more than she deserved. Yeah she betrayed her father, but it's mostly due to the fact that she's highly naive. Arya isn't, to where Ned actually bothers to explain to her that they are in danger and not to trust the Lannisters, but trust themselves especially her sister. Ned never paid much heed to tell Sansa that life is not a song, that beautiful people aren't necessarily good and that bad people aren't necessarily ugly. Ironically the single biggest monster in her life, Littlefinger, is the only one to tell her this (ironic that he gives both her and Ned the one piece of advice that they should have heeded while in King's Landing). She's just a tween who has ideals about the world that just don't exist.

Sansa wises up really quickly though, really only putting her faith in Dontos and no one else until she is abducted by Littlefinger. Sansa no longer has any desire to find a prince of her dreams. In fact I think she'd prefer for them to have a major flaw like Wyllas rather than be a "perfect prince" like Joffrey was. But in the end, all Sansa wants is home and her family to go what it once was.

And I don't know how people don't like Sansa's POV chapters. In the first novel it was refreshing to go to someone's POV who was completely naive and oblivious to what was going on around her. After that, Sansa was always in the heat of the action, and always had great scenes with the Hound, Joffrey, Littlefinger, the Tyrells, and Tyrion. I can't think of a truly boring Sansa chapter, and she is probably in my Top 5 POVs.

Ranking my Top 5 POVs:

1) Jaime
2) Arya
3) Tyrion
4) Theon
5) Cersei
6) Sansa

Ok, she's not quite there, but almost.

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The fact that she betrayed Ned just made it that much worse.

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She had to. Her handwriting, Cersei's words.

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Agreed. I get annoyed when fans act like Sansa should've been more like Arya in her situation...she would've been dead if she acted too rashly.

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Honestly, both were in the horrifying environment that they could best survive. Arya would have been killed quickly by Joffrey in the environment of King's Landing, while Sansa would have been raped and killed on the road to Harrenhall. They both thrive in their respected environments, and are not fitted for the other's.

Seriously, aside from the fact that Tyrion would have shipped her to Casterly Rock if she was still alive by the time he got there, would there even be a chance Arya would survive that?