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Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:59 pm to OMLandshark
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It's really laughable on the Hodor thread right now. They keep posting that Margeary had the cup, so the Tyrells couldn't be behind it. Jesus, Olenna got the poison from Sansa, and then Margeary personally poisoned the wine.
Got the poison from Dontos who got it from Little Finger. Thet are going to be shocked at the last line of the next episode. Can't fricking wait..
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:00 pm to putt23
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Well it'd have to be some sort of favor by someone for Ramsay to be a captive and then Theon could get him. Ramsay deserves to be flayed himself, so maybe it can happen. Which ever way he dies it will be pretty horrible, hopefully.
Even then, I think Theon would literally shite himself. That's right, even if he had Rsay exactly where he wanted him, Theon is so fricked in the head that he'd think for sure this was a trap and that Ramsay would start flaying him alive at any second. I don't think Theon can bring himself to kill Ramsay simply from the sheer terror he inspires in him.
Ramsay's antithesis in Jon Snow I think is the best person to take him down. Episodes that GRRM writes I pay much closer attention to, since he writes the subtleties that even the creators don't understand. I think Jon and Ramsay's showdown is inevitable.
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He's no test for Jon before his "death" and for sure none after. Jon can kill him easily it would seem once they meet
It would honestly be a great duel, due to Jon's refined nature and Ramsay's ferocity. Personally I don't think the duel will have a conclusive winner, since I think Ramsay will arrive at the worst time possible, and force Jon to personally duel him, which will lead to a pretty immediate fall of the Wall.
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:02 pm to Cosmo
I posted a joke in that thread about the cup rolling down and to the left. DOWN AND TO THE LEFT!
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:03 pm to OMLandshark
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It's really laughable on the Hodor thread right now. They keep posting that Margeary had the cup, so the Tyrells couldn't be behind it. Jesus, Olenna got the poison from Sansa, and then Margeary personally poisoned the wine.
Me and my buddy keep talking bout it, wondering if we didn't know would we catch it. That's why I can't understand why people (Hodors) watch the show, and can stand to not read the books to find out what happens.
How many shows or movies are being put out while books are still unresolved?
Harry Potter is what sticks out in my mind
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:10 pm to OMLandshark
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It would honestly be a great duel, due to Jon's refined nature and Ramsay's ferocity. Personally I don't think the duel will have a conclusive winner, since I think Ramsay will arrive at the worst time possible, and force Jon to personally duel him, which will lead to a pretty immediate fall of the Wall.
I'd like the duel especially the banter during it. I just feel like Ramsay has got to die in the worse way imaginable.
We noticed Jon's demeanor changing after being with the Wildlings. How different will he be after the stabbing? If he's AA does he act differently, or when he finds out his parentage does he act differently?
I feel he stays humble with attitude, and at some point just announces who he is and proceeds to wreck shite
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:13 pm to ladytiger118
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It wouldn't surprise me if Roose kills him but I doubt it'll happen like that--but, the show is already setting up the tension between those two
I don't think that would happen, Roose fulls believes that Ramsey will kill the children he will have with portly bride.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:21 pm to putt23
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I'd like the duel especially the banter during it
GRRM could release a small book titled, "Correspondence from Ramsey Bolton", and I would buy it.
Ramsey's smack talk is great
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:27 pm to kingbob
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The millers' boys were his kin. Theon had been having sex with the miller's wife for years. He quite possibly murdered his own bastard children that the miller's wife had born after convincing her husband they were his.
Haha. Wow. Never thought of this
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:46 pm to putt23
found a new theory that we may not have discussed:
if Mel brings Jon Snow back to life does she die like when Dondarrion brought Cat back to life?
also the actress playing Mel has said that she is much older than 100.
is their any link to Melisandre and Shiera Seastar? Could she be the daughter of Shiera and Bloodraven or even be Shiera herself?
if Mel brings Jon Snow back to life does she die like when Dondarrion brought Cat back to life?
also the actress playing Mel has said that she is much older than 100.
is their any link to Melisandre and Shiera Seastar? Could she be the daughter of Shiera and Bloodraven or even be Shiera herself?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:49 pm to CE Tiger
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if Mel brings Jon Snow back to life does she die like when Dondarrion brought Cat back to life?
Yep
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:02 pm to CE Tiger
Thoros did it 6 times and lives, why can't she do it once?
Maybe if you died and then giving life, if you give that life away you stay dead dead
yes given
Maybe if you died and then giving life, if you give that life away you stay dead dead
yes given
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:03 pm to OMLandshark
i guess i never thought of Mel as undead but theres seems to be a lot of things pointing in that direction and ive read rumors that the show writers have slipped on confirming that theory in various interviews
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:05 pm to CE Tiger
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i guess i never thought of Mel as undead but theres seems to be a lot of things pointing in that direction and ive read rumors that the show writers have slipped on confirming that theory in various interviews
Someone needs to ask her about Bloodraven then, maybe Davos
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:09 pm to CE Tiger
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is their any link to Melisandre and Shiera Seastar? Could she be the daughter of Shiera and Bloodraven or even be Shiera herself?
When she sees Bloodraven and Bran in her vision she says something along the lines of it "felt like an old lovers touch". Shiera and Bloodraven's realtionship was pretty widely known about back in the day and my thought is Mel could be a sort of glamour that Shiera uses. Shiera was said to have bathed in the blood of maidens to keep her beauty, which could make it possible for her to still be around.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:14 pm to BlackleafBaller
i need to reread dunk and egg tales, at this point we basically have a link to the 4 great bastards still fighting:
Daemon Blackfyre - with Aegon
Bloodraven
Bittersteel - Golden Company
Shiera - Melisandre?
Daemon Blackfyre - with Aegon
Bloodraven
Bittersteel - Golden Company
Shiera - Melisandre?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:23 pm to CE Tiger
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Bittersteel - Golden Company
Who's bastard is he?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:25 pm to Gugich22
Aegon IV
Great Bastards
Male Great Bastards
Great Bastards: Bittersteel, Daemon, Bloodraven and Shiera
Among Aegon's bastards, several were of noble mothers, becoming known as the "Great Bastards." At present, there are only four known Great Bastards:
Daemon Blackfyre Aegon's son from Princess Daena Targaryen.
Aegor "Bittersteel" Rivers Aegon's son from Lady Barba Bracken.
Shiera Seastar Aegon's daughter from Lady Serenei of Lys.
Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers Aegon's son from Lady Melissa Blackwood.
Great Bastards
Male Great Bastards
Great Bastards: Bittersteel, Daemon, Bloodraven and Shiera
Among Aegon's bastards, several were of noble mothers, becoming known as the "Great Bastards." At present, there are only four known Great Bastards:
Daemon Blackfyre Aegon's son from Princess Daena Targaryen.
Aegor "Bittersteel" Rivers Aegon's son from Lady Barba Bracken.
Shiera Seastar Aegon's daughter from Lady Serenei of Lys.
Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers Aegon's son from Lady Melissa Blackwood.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:25 pm to Gugich22
They're all bastards of Aegon the Unworthy (IV)
Daemon Blackfyre - with Aegon
Bloodraven - Bran
Bittersteel - Golden Company
Shiera - Melisandre?
The two in bold are basically confirmed the other two I'm not positive about. Shiera could also be Quaithe who could be related to Mel since they're both from the Asshai (the Mel is Shiera's daughter theory).
Daemon Blackfyre - with Aegon
Bloodraven - Bran
Bittersteel - Golden Company
Shiera - Melisandre?
The two in bold are basically confirmed the other two I'm not positive about. Shiera could also be Quaithe who could be related to Mel since they're both from the Asshai (the Mel is Shiera's daughter theory).
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:35 pm to BlackleafBaller
Yep. That's right.
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