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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:10 pm to Josh Fenderman
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:10 pm to Josh Fenderman
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This is now making me think that it's more how the people in the realm view kinslayers that make them so accursed. Theon was viewed as killing Rickon and Bran, so Ramsay messed with his head good. If Tyrion had stayed in Westeros, he very likely would have ended up much worse than how he is now.
The millers' boys were his kin. Theon had been having sex with the miller's wife for years. He quite possibly murdered his own bastard children that the miller's wife had born after convincing her husband they were his.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 5:11 pm
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:12 pm to kingbob
Oh snap
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:17 pm to Josh Fenderman
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Ramsay messed with his head good. If Tyrion had stayed in Westeros, he very likely would have ended up much worse than how he is now.
Speaking of Ramsey, the only reason Roose didn't kill Ramsey was because of the kinslayer curse... That and he had his eyes.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:18 pm to kingbob
Dunno Bob. That seems a bit of a stretch given Theon's age...
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:20 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Speaking of Ramsey, the only reason Roose didn't kill Ramsey was because of the kinslayer curse... That and he had his eyes.
It wouldn't surprise me if Roose kills him but I doubt it'll happen like that--but, the show is already setting up the tension between those two. Roose is a very discreet man, and knows that Ramsay is reckless, doesn't hide his activities, and could be the ruin of his house (and he will be).
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:22 pm to kingbob
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The millers' boys were his kin. Theon had been having sex with the miller's wife for years. He quite possibly murdered his own bastard children that the miller's wife had born after convincing her husband they were his.
He may have had one Rickon's age, but that means that Theon would have had to impregnate the Millers' wife from the moment he got to Winterfell, when he was 11. The younger could possibly be his, but I doubt the younger. I've always liked this theory though.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:22 pm to 19
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Dunno Bob. That seems a bit of a stretch given Theon's age...
Theon was 17 at the start of the books. The millers' boys were younger than Bran and Rickon (hence the need to char them so much). It was not impossible for at least one of them to have been his.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:53 pm to kingbob
Am I nuts or was there a scene (either Ros or the captain's ugly daughter) where The on bragged about losing his virginity at a retarded ly young age...to the Miller's wife?
I have a vague memory...
I have a vague memory...
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:29 pm to 19
He did indeed brag about that
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:37 pm to Cosmo
I can't remember now if it is in the book as well, but don't those two boys come from Winterfell to help the miller?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:39 pm to Cosmo
That chick he banged on the boat was horrendously ugly. 
I imagine he redeems himself somehow before he dies, but is there any way he kills Ramsay?
I imagine he redeems himself somehow before he dies, but is there any way he kills Ramsay?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:39 pm to 19
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Am I nuts or was there a scene (either Ros or the captain's ugly daughter) where The on bragged about losing his virginity at a retarded ly young age...to the Miller's wife?
I have a vague memory...
He did. He also ponders on it when they come across the old mill while hunting down Bran and Rickon. He also expresses deep remorse for killing the boys in many of his Reek POVs.
Even though it technically wasn't kinslaying, he also feels guilty about betraying Robb and thoroughly believes that his doing so was what led to Robb's death, an indirect "kin-slaying" if you will. However, I think that one is more self-enforced rather than enforced by the Godly laws of Westeros.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:43 pm to putt23
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I imagine he redeems himself somehow before he dies, but is there any way he kills Ramsay?
I doubt Theon and Ramsay see each other again. Theon would shite himself if he came within earshot of Ramsay's troops. Theon already royally fricked over Ramsay by stealing his bride from him, which was the sole basis of the Bolton's power in the North. I really think it will more come down to Ramsay and Jon, who Ramsay will be convinced is hiding his bride and his precious Reek.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:46 pm to putt23
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That chick he banged on the boat was horrendously ugly.
The casting call was for the worst looking tits, teeth and accent in mankind history. Homerun..
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:49 pm to OMLandshark
Well it'd have to be some sort of favor by someone for Ramsay to be a captive and then Theon could get him.
Ramsay deserves to be flayed himself, so maybe it can happen. Which ever way he dies it will be pretty horrible, hopefully.
He's no test for Jon before his "death" and for sure none after. Jon can kill him easily it would seem once they meet
Ramsay deserves to be flayed himself, so maybe it can happen. Which ever way he dies it will be pretty horrible, hopefully.
He's no test for Jon before his "death" and for sure none after. Jon can kill him easily it would seem once they meet
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:52 pm to glassman
I wonder what kind of self esteem that chick has?
Castin call for an ugly chick with jacked up tits and she gets the job.
Castin call for an ugly chick with jacked up tits and she gets the job.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:53 pm to glassman
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The casting call was for the worst looking tits, teeth and accent in mankind history. Homerun..
My SO: Did they get a retarded girl for that part?
me: Don't know baby...
my SO: Looks like her face paid the Iron price huh? (with high 5 included)
me: I love you
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:53 pm to Gugich22
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can someone give their reasoning for why GRRM would include it in the story only for Tyrion to kill him?
Because it is who their characters are. Red Viper isn't going to challenge the Mountain to a combat unless he already know he has taken care of Tywin. He couldn't challenge Tywin to single combat.
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I think that Varys knew Jaime was going to free Tyrion. How else do you figure he just so happened to run into Tryion after he escaped?
I agree with you, cause how do you explain the crossbow being in the room? There's not many weapons that would have given Tyrion the upper hand(no pun intended) and it just happen to be there with arrows.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:54 pm to glassman
It's really laughable on the Hodor thread right now. They keep posting that Margeary had the cup, so the Tyrells couldn't be behind it. Jesus, Olenna got the poison from Sansa, and then Margeary personally poisoned the wine.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:55 pm to OMLandshark
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They keep posting that Margeary had the cup, so the Tyrells couldn't be behind it
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