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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by Big Lake
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:30 pm to
Its not gonna happen but Robb coming back as a half wolf monster might be the most badass thing ever.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:38 pm to
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UnCat gets a hold of Widow's Wail and kills someone significant with it.


If so Frey and Bolton.

Valar Morghulis
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:50 pm to
"When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East, when the seas run dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves, when you womb quickens again and you bear a living child, then he will return and not before."

I think this is the biggest prophecy in the book. What do you think it means?
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:53 pm to
Dany will sail around the world by going East and landing in the West, probably near Lannisport and Casterly Rock. The Mountain will be chopped to bits and flung through the air in a blizzard. There may also be some kind of rockslide. Dany will have a son by a new father (who knows at this point), and then Khal Drogo will rise from the ashes as the most badass Azor Ahai ever.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:54 pm to
Hey Hugo, can you add my boy Donal Noye to the "good" list? He was always one of my favorite characters that doesn't seem to get enough love.

Also, where do we think Bowen Marsh goes?? I think he's pretty complicated.

Him supporting Slynt for LC was bad, but he really seemed to have legitimate reasons at least. And he was helpful to Jon after his election.

He just truly didn't believe that Jon was doing the right thing, and tried everything to make Jon see the dangers in bringing the wildlings in, although I think he was wrong.

Hell, even as he stabbed him, he was crying saying "For the Watch."

I really think he is trying to do what he thinks is right for the good of the Watch and the realm.

And you have to admit, Jon's plan to march on Winterfell was pretty radical as LC.

Any thoughts?
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:56 pm to
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The Noble and Puissant Order of the Warrior's Sons are an order of Knights sworn to the Faith of the Seven. They are part of the Faith Militant which are known as the Swords and Stars. They only answer and obey the High Septon and him alone as they believe the High Septon speaks for the Seven on the world.

Only an anointed Knight can join this order. Most of the Warrior's Sons are comprised of former hedge and household Knights but some are of higher birth such as older lords who wish to atone for there old sins or younger sons. Some Lords even renounce titles, castles and lands to serve the Warrior's Sons and the Seven. The Warrior's Sons duties are often to protect Holy Septs or to escort the devout safely across the land protecting them from brigands and the unfaithful.

They wear inlaid silver armor over hair shirts, rainbow cloaks, and swords with star-shaped crystals in their pommels. They developed a reputation for fanaticism and implacable hatred for enemies of the Faith, they see any who worship other gods as false and evil. They are said to have been holy men, ascetics, sorcerers, dragonslayers and demonhunters.[1]

The order has not existed in the realm since Jaehaerys I, however after War of the Five Kings in 300 AL the ruling King Tommen Baratheon under the edict of his mother and Regent Cersei Lannister overturned Maegors law which forbade Holy men from being armed and the order was reborn.

Over a hundred knights have so far pledged their swords and lives to the Warrior's Sons and obey the new High Septon known by many as the High Sparrow.


It will be interesting to see where they go with the militant religious folk.



This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I think this is the biggest prophecy in the book. What do you think it means?

I never really took it as a prophecy as much as MMD telling her he'll never be back.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:58 pm to
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Donal Noye to the "good" list

done
quote:

Bowen Marsh to complicated

done

I tried to stick to story essential characters.
Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:00 pm to
I am not sure if the prophecy is jsut saying Dany will never bear children but I'll give it a shot.

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when the seas run dry


Patchface often refers to death as "under the sea" in his prophecies this could refer to when the Others are defeated or possibly when the Greyjoys are put down.

quote:

"When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East


This could refer to TPTWP. Maybe something happens at Eastwatch. This could be any number of things.

quote:

and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves


Immediately made me think of the doom of valyria and volcanoes. Could refer to frankengregor.

Thats all I got. I am sure Hugo and OM and others will have better insight.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:02 pm to
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Thats all I got. I am sure Hugo and OM and others will have better insight.

I got nothing on that prophecy.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:03 pm to
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tried to stick to story essential characters


Yeah I here ya.

Noye definitely isn't, but Marsh could definitely have an expanded role going forward.

I'd say he's around the level of Illyn Payne at this point.
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:05 pm to
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When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East




This could refer to TPTWP. Maybe something happens at Eastwatch. This could be any number of things.




The sun is the symbol of House Martel so its been theorized that Quentyn travelling from Dorne to Mereen just to die fulfilled this part. I've read theories on the rest but they're all a little shaky.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:09 pm to
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"When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East


i thought this might be a reference to quentyn martell

his family's symbol is the sun, he rose from the west and went East for Dany, where he died (set?)
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70462 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:09 pm to
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The sun is the symbol of House Martel so its been theorized that Quentyn travelling from Dorne to Mereen just to die fulfilled this part


That makes sense
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:10 pm to
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shinerfan


well F me in the A
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:39 pm to
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and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves



Immediately made me think of the doom of valyria and volcanoes. Could refer to frankengregor.


dammit, this has to be the stone dragons of dragonstone taking flight. i'm going all in on this theory

quote:

when the seas run dry
the land bridge connecting westeros and essos is restored somehow (CoTF?)(blood magic?)
Posted by shelly
Member since Nov 2010
103 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:50 pm to
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when the seas run dry


What about the Dothraki Sea?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 1:50 pm to
The Seven must be shitty gods. They are the one religion that doesn't seem to have any "magical" powers.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:00 pm to
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The Seven must be shitty gods. They are the one religion that doesn't seem to have any "magical" powers.
it seems that way

R'hllor and the old gods seem to be at odds with The Great Other and the Storm God/Drowned God

the seven are are like mormonism

the citadel is at odds with all of them

it could all be differing representations of blood magic though. people assign their own significance to it
Posted by manwich
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:01 pm to
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What about the Dothraki Sea?
maybe

that reminds me. i need to mow
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