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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:01 pm to
Do any of yall believe that Syrio=Jaquen?
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:03 pm to
I think UnCat will use Jamie as some kind of entrance into the Frey-Lannister wedding at Riverrun. Remember, Jamie spotted the singer(name?) outside of Riverrun and talked to him. He was headed in to entertain the household. That wedding will have big time bloodshed.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:05 pm to
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That wedding will have big time bloodshed.



It would be only fitting
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:07 pm to
My only hang up with Syrio = Jaqen is that Ned hired him. I feel like Ned would do some due diligence before letting some strange man spend so much time with his daughter. I think Syrio was/is exactly who he said he was/is.

I have another question. Do you pronounce Frey like fry or fray? Ive said Fry this entire time and cant remember how they said it in the show since I haven't watched the second season yet.
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Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:08 pm to
The show says Fray. I call them count.
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Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:12 pm to
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My only hang up with Syrio = Jaqen is that Ned hired him. I feel like Ned would do some due diligence before letting some strange man spend so much time with his daughter. I think Syrio was/is exactly who he said he was/is.




It is very possible that Syrio Forel was actually a real person and actually the first sword of braavos who was killed by a faceless man who then took his identity.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:12 pm to
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The show says Fray. I call them count.



Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:19 pm to
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Do any of yall believe that Syrio=Jaquen?


I did until I read this:

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n 2005, GRRM pointed out that Syrio seems to have been left in a hopeless situation when he was last seen, and suggested readers should "draw your own conclusions" based on this (SSM), which seems to imply that Syrio Forel was in fact killed. More recent reports (but, it should be said, unconfirmed) indicate GRRM does not understand why he gets asked the question repeatedly, pointing out that Syrio is not immortal; if accurate, this seems to more heavily imply that Syrio Forel is dead.


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Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:19 pm to
The Freys are fricking terrible. I hate them as a whole. There is just way too many of them and they're boring.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:26 pm to
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which seems to imply that Syrio Forel was in fact killed



I'm sure Syrio was killed but what about the Faceless man who was impersonating him?


fwiw I don't really believe it either. I think Jaquen H'gar was a man who was already in the black cells and the Faceless man killed him and impersonated him to catch a trip to the wall (maybe he was going after Maester Aemon considering he later altered his path and went to Oldtown)
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:42 pm to
Touché

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fwiw I don't really believe it either. I think Jaquen H'gar was a man who was already in the black cells and the Faceless man killed him and impersonated him to catch a trip to the wall (maybe he was going after Maester Aemon considering he later altered his path and went to Oldtown)


Interesting. I hadn't thought about the Aemon angle.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:45 pm to
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Interesting. I hadn't thought about the Aemon angle.




My only issue with that is who would be going after Aemon and why?

Varys and Illyrio would be the obvious answers however why? Hes old as sin and not a threat to Aegon or Dany's claim to the throne.

Maybe the Citadel for some reason? However then that leads me to the question of why the alchemist needed to steal a key?
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:47 pm to
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I could see arya possibly being Nissa Nissa though


I know how you could see this, but she is just entirely too badass. Not gonna happen. She is only coming back to the Seven Kingdoms to wreck shite.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:50 pm to
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I know how you could see this, but she is just entirely too badass. Not gonna happen. She is only coming back to the Seven Kingdoms to wreck shite.


Maybe if this was Dean Koontz or something
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:52 pm to
Speaking of that key in Oldtown, did they ever expand upon why that guy was killed to get the key? It may have been something that I read and soon forgot.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:56 pm to
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Anyone else think the Boltons/Freys in the North will be of minor significance? IMO, I don't see anyway they win because that leaves them to deal with the wights & walkers which would be retarded.


Yes, they are punk bitches. I don't see either of those houses being part of the long term plans.

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I think Stannis & co. crush them somehow,


Then he's not dead according to you? I didn't believe the letter that was delivered to the Wall at the end of ADWD, but I am wondering why you think so.


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I love the Boltons



Yeah, we've already discussed your twisted arse psychology. You probably rooted for Dahmer too.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 9:00 pm to
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Do any of yall believe that Syrio=Jaquen?


I don't know if I'd say I "believe" it, but it certainly seems like a possibility. That would be one of the least surprising things that has happened so far for me.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 9:00 pm to
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Yeah, we've already discussed your twisted arse psychology. You probably rooted for Dahmer too.




Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 9:06 pm to
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Maybe the Citadel for some reason?


There is definitely something going on at the Citadel that we know very little about at this point. The guy the took Samwell at The Citadel is part of a group that will play a very prominent role, IMO. What exactly that is, I do not know yet. There seems to be 2 groups at Oldtown that oppose each other.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 9:22 pm to
That's another interesting aspect of the story. Anytime the Citadel is mentioned by a non-Westerosi, they usually mention something about Marwyn. That dude will play a big part in the future.
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