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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:42 pm to
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I never "hated" Jaime



Oh I did. Right after he pushed Bran out the window I wanted him to die painfully.

Thankfully GRRM didn't take my advice on that particular story arch
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:46 pm to
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I really don't buy Jon being anyone but the person stabbed at the wall. GRRM has done some slightly misleading narration before, but this would be over the top. Maybe the last Jon chapter had some subtle hints that it was another person's thoughts, but I haven't noticed.




Yea I was just kinda brainstorming there but I will definitely be paying closer attention to Jon chapters next time I pick up Dance.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:48 pm to
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really hope the actor can make the turn around for Jamie as good as it was in the books. Supposedly HBO and the producers love him.


He's gonna look funny with a shaved head Maybe they'll leave him pretty. I just hope at some point it's told out loud how he saved the whole city, prolly won't
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:02 pm to
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However I wonder if Jon could possibly be the Hooded Man? Thats something that deserves to be looked further into. Would also explain why the Jon who got stabbed refused to keep ghost with him.

Interesting theory. I'm rereading the series now, I can't wait to reread ADWD knowing what I know to pick up stuff like that.

I actually have loved Jaime from the outset. He is such a great character.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:05 pm to
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I actually have loved Jaime from the outset.


You would, a-hole
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:08 pm to
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You would, a-hole


Forgive me, forgive me

When he pushed Bran out of the tower, my jaw hung longer than it did when Walt runs over the drug dealers and shoots one in "Half Measures" in Season 3
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:10 pm to
I have no idea how you guys remember all these briefly mentioned characters

Is it just because of multiple re-reads? Or do y'all just read the dedicated forums a lot?

Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:13 pm to
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Ser Kevan grew on me after Tywin died


Ser Kevan telling Cersei he would be the King's Hand IF she went scurrying back to Casterly Rock may have been my all time favorite moment in the books. Him letting her know that he knew about her and Jaime was just the icing on the cake.
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:15 pm to
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I have no idea how you guys remember all these briefly mentioned characters

Is it just because of multiple re-reads? Or do y'all just read the dedicated forums a lot?


I am just a very disciplined reader. I oftentimes reread chapters, and if I am cloudy on a brief character allusion, I will look him/her up on Tower of the Hand, then reread again. While I read, I'm constantly trying to find connections between characters and the reasoning behind motives, trying as hard as I can to fit the big puzzle together. That, and I've always had a knack for remembering names.

I'm not a big forum person except for TD. This is the only board I discuss/read about ASOIAF on.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 7:17 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:16 pm to
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Is it just because of multiple re-reads? Or do y'all just read the dedicated forums a lot?




Both for me. plus Wiki of ice and fire is always open while I'm doing re reads.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:16 pm to
I always loved Kevan. He was a smart guy and was humble, despite his position. Probably from living in Tywin's shadow. He would've been a great leader.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:18 pm to
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I have no idea how you guys remember all these briefly mentioned characters


A lot of what has been discussed in this thread seemingly comes from Tales of Egg & Dunk, which I have not yet read. I think that is where some of the backstory on the Blackfyres is coming from. Although it also seems like a few here frequesnt the forums on ASOIAF. I don't know if I want to do that yet.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:20 pm to
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Although it also seems like a few here frequesnt the forums on ASOIAF. I don't know if I want to do that yet.


Don't. I never will. You can get everything you need from here. We have a very solid core of ASOIAF specialists.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:21 pm to
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Although it also seems like a few here frequesnt the forums on ASOIAF



I lurk on westeros.org a good bit but I don't post.

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A lot of what has been discussed in this thread seemingly comes from Tales of Egg & Dunk, which I have not yet read. I think that is where some of the backstory on the Blackfyres is coming from.


truth
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:23 pm to
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Although it also seems like a few here frequesnt the forums on ASOIAF. I don't know if I want to do that yet.


I don't read the forums, but I use the wiki on Westeros. I like reading the histories. I only read the boards on here, and we see it's gone 15 pages
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:27 pm to
Imagine if y'all put this much work into real history, you'd all be professors
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:27 pm to
May I suggest checking out Tower of the Hand? It blows away WOIAF and all of the other sites. They have loads of content, discuss episodes AND the books, and they do group rereads (just started CoK) with a different member of the community leading the discussions 5 chapters at a time. I thought Wiki of Ice and Fire was great until I found this; it blows it away. You can get lost on it for hours. It is a bit harder to navigate, though. The community is absolutely marvelous. A lot of people do essays and in-depth analyses, and you really open up to a lot of different views. For people still in progress in the series, you can set a scale of how many books you've read/seasons watched and it will trim the articles so as not to spoil. It's amazing.

God I'm such a nerd
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 7:28 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:30 pm to
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May I suggest checking out Tower of the Hand? It blows away WOIAF and all of the other sites. They have loads of content, discuss episodes AND the books, and they do group rereads (just started CoK) with a different member of the community leading the discussions 5 chapters at a time. I thought Wiki of Ice and Fire was great until I found this; it blows it away. You can get lost on it for hours. It is a bit harder to navigate, though. The community is absolutely marvelous. A lot of people do essays and in-depth analyses, and you really open up to a lot of different views. For people still in progress in the series, you can set a scale of how many books you've read/seasons watched and it will trim the articles so as not to spoil. It's amazing.




They're both great for different things. If I need to look up one specific character or faction I go to woiaf if I want to read articles and such I go to TOH
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:44 pm to
For sure. Great method
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:47 pm to
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You're right, and that's why I cheer for Jaime
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The single best character development I've ever read
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Now he is, without a doubt, one of my favorites. He has really grown a heart, since getting away from King's Landing and his heartless (other than Tyrion) family.
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I actually have loved Jaime from the outset. He is such a great character.

Jamie is soooooooo dead.
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